Monk Of Reason
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It got someone to misunderstand me?
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John the Baptist accepted Islam
- Thread starter FearGod
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It got someone to misunderstand me?
sojourner
Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
Striking is as striking does.
outhouse
Atheistically
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
No surprise that morons may believe anything they hear because they lack the ability to think.
Lets investigate the hadith
Narrated Anas:
Some people from the tribe of `Ukl came to the Prophet (ﷺ
and embraced Islam. The climate of Medina did not suit them, so the Prophet (ﷺ ordered them to go to the (herd of milch) camels of charity and to drink, their milk and urine (as a medicine). They did so, and after they had recovered from their ailment (became healthy) they turned renegades (reverted from Islam) and killed the shepherd of the camels and took the camels away. The Prophet (ﷺ sent (some people) in their pursuit and so they were (caught and) brought, and the Prophets ordered that their hands and legs should be cut off and that their eyes should be branded with heated pieces of iron, and that their cut hands and legs should not be cauterized, till they die.
Hadith - Limits and Punishments set by Allah (Hudood) - Sahih al-Bukhari - Sunnah.com - Sayings and Teachings of Prophet Muhammad (??? ???? ???? ? ???)
The hadith says that the climate didn't suit them so they got sick,the question is, did they come from Norway that the differences in climate cause them to get ill.
Why they need to kill the shepherd while they can use the medicine at any time they wish.
What evidence left to tell that they did kill the shepherd and took away the camels and how they caught them if they run away ?
That being said, the most significant point is that the urine is among "Najasa" which means dirties that a person should not even touch then how to drink it.
Najasat - tashayyu.org
The last thing to say is that this stupid habit IMO was used long before Islam and hence it has no relation or connect to Islam.
Urine therapy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Lets investigate the hadith
Narrated Anas:
Some people from the tribe of `Ukl came to the Prophet (ﷺ
and embraced Islam. The climate of Medina did not suit them, so the Prophet (ﷺ ordered them to go to the (herd of milch) camels of charity and to drink, their milk and urine (as a medicine). They did so, and after they had recovered from their ailment (became healthy) they turned renegades (reverted from Islam) and killed the shepherd of the camels and took the camels away. The Prophet (ﷺ sent (some people) in their pursuit and so they were (caught and) brought, and the Prophets ordered that their hands and legs should be cut off and that their eyes should be branded with heated pieces of iron, and that their cut hands and legs should not be cauterized, till they die.Hadith - Limits and Punishments set by Allah (Hudood) - Sahih al-Bukhari - Sunnah.com - Sayings and Teachings of Prophet Muhammad (??? ???? ???? ? ???)
The hadith says that the climate didn't suit them so they got sick,the question is, did they come from Norway that the differences in climate cause them to get ill.
Why they need to kill the shepherd while they can use the medicine at any time they wish.
What evidence left to tell that they did kill the shepherd and took away the camels and how they caught them if they run away ?
That being said, the most significant point is that the urine is among "Najasa" which means dirties that a person should not even touch then how to drink it.
Najasat - tashayyu.org
The last thing to say is that this stupid habit IMO was used long before Islam and hence it has no relation or connect to Islam.
Urine therapy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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sojourner
Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
Soooo...No surprise that morons may believe anything they hear because they lack the ability to think.
Lets investigate the hadith
Narrated Anas:
Some people from the tribe of `Ukl came to the Prophet (ﷺ
Hadith - Limits and Punishments set by Allah (Hudood) - Sahih al-Bukhari - Sunnah.com - Sayings and Teachings of Prophet Muhammad (??? ???? ???? ? ???)
The hadith says that the climate didn't suit them so they got sick,the question is, did they come from Norway that the differences in climate cause them to get ill.
Why they need to kill the shepherd while they can use the medicine at any time they wish.
What evidence left to tell that they did kill the shepherd and took away the camels and how they caught them if they run away ?
That being said, the most significant point is that the urine is among "Najasa" which means dirties that a person should not even touch then how to drink it.
Najasat - tashayyu.org
The last thing to say is that this stupid habit IMO was used long before Islam and hence it has no relation or connect to Islam.
Urine therapy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
John the Baptist didn't accept Islam, then. Great! Thanks!
Triumphant_Loser
Libertarian Egalitarian
I thought Islam was the "original religion" and "always existed?" Changing our minds a bit suddenly are we? :sarcastic
sojourner
Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
D'oh! Caught! :foot:
YmirGF
Bodhisattva in Recovery
Freudian keyboard slip?
sojourner
Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
The truth finally caught up with him.
YmirGF
Bodhisattva in Recovery
Allahu akbar! Apparently, his next thread is going to show how Charles Manson embraced Islam...
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
I'm speaking about the hadith which was in the era of Muhammed and not in the era of John the Baptist or Adam's era.
Is that hard for you guys to understand.
The message of Islam in Muhammed era isn't the message of Islam in Jesus era ..etc
So when we are talking about Muhammed hadith then we are talking about his message and not the origin message of Islam
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FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
Stupid and childish kind of posts.
sojourner
Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
JtB didn't embrace the hadith. Adam didn't embrace the hadith. Therefore, neither are Muslim, because neither submitted in the way particularly proscribed by Islam.
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
The hadith doesn't make any sense to me but i do surrender and submit myself to the will of God.
Do you think if i reject one hadith then i'm not a Muslim.
Triumphant_Loser
Libertarian Egalitarian
So you admit that the Hadith contains errors?
Monk Of Reason
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My question to everyone who says this, not just you and not just Muslims, but everyone that states they "submit to the will of god".
"HOW do you know what the will of god is?"
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
There are many fabricated hadith, the quran mentioned the honey as good source for health and never mentioned the urine or milk of camels.
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
It is to believe that many things in life are happening due to God's will and to surrender and submit to his will whether it was good or bad.
For example one may born as poor, was that his choice
One may born with health problems, was that his choice
One may born in England, other in India
One born rich, one died young other died extremely old in age
Endless of examples in life that happen due to God's will that we have to accept and surrender to it.
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mahasn ebn sawresho
Well-Known Member
Why this method of response
Do you think your civilized dialogue
Do you think your civilized dialogue