Joseph Smith Fraud

[tumbleweed41]

why is it that all athieist are pro-gay and maybe actually gay?

i suppose its their choice, but not one that i care to associate with.

i thought this to be a religious forum not a (edit) one.

Nice rant. Perhaps now you would like to address your false claim of homosexuality not appearing in nature.

 

[sniper762]

note from list of homosexual animals

Bagemihl's research shows that homosexual behavior, not necessarily sex, has been observed in close to 1500 species, ranging from primates to gut worms, Bagemihl's research shows that homosexual behavior, not necessarily sex, has been observed in close to 1500 species, ranging from primates to gut worms,

NOTE "NOT NECESSARILY SEX"

these homosexual behaviors are not similar to those of homosexual humans, which IS sexual. even if they were, humans suppose to be civilized and above primitive wild animals.

note it is not i that put human homosexuals in the same class as uncivilized, unintelligent, wild ANIMALS.

 

[kai]

MOD POST

stay on the topic of the OP please folks​

 

[linwood]

NOTE "NOT NECESSARILY SEX"

these homosexual behaviors are not similar to those of homosexual humans, which IS sexual.
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All homoSEXUAL behavior is SEXUAL in one way or another.
This is why it is termed "homoSEXUAL".

You are aware that intercourse isn`t a prerequisite for something to be SEXUAL aren`t you?

 

[EverChanging]

note it is not i that put human homosexuals in the same class as uncivilized, unintelligent, wild ANIMALS.

And what are you, if not an animal? A watermelon?

 

[ZooGirl02]

I am a former member of the LDS church and will like to display one thing that convinced me that religion is not true. The mormon church was founded in America in the early 1800s by a man named Joseph Smith who claimed to had seen a vision from God and Jesus. He claimed to be a prophet and was supposedly appointed to lead God's church. He managed to convert thousands of people but they were having to move from place to place because of bad relations with other people.

He was later shot in a jail by a mob and the mormons moved out west to Utah. Joseph Smith supposedly translated the Book of Mormon which is supposedly a record of the previous inhabitants of the Americas. These people supposedly had technology and resources such as iron, swords, steel, silk, ships, armor, walled cities, and horses.

He claimed to be a seer which means that he can translate documents in unknown languages with the gift of the spirit. Joseph Smith found some papyri found among Egyptian mummies and claimed that these papyri contained the Book of Abraham. He then preceeded to translate them. He actually made some copies of some of the things on these papyri and translated them. These facsimiles are given in this link Abraham.

One facsimile I want to focus on is this below.

EXPLANATION
Fig. 1. Abraham sitting upon Pharaoh’s throne, by the politeness of the king, with a crown upon his head, representing the Priesthood, as emblematical of the grand Presidency in Heaven; with the scepter of justice and judgment in his hand.
Fig. 2. King Pharaoh, whose name is given in the characters above his head.
Fig. 3. Signifies Abraham in Egypt as given also in Figure 10 of facsimile 3.
Fig. 4. Prince of Pharaoh, King of Egypt, as written above the hand.
Fig. 5. Shulem, one of the king’s principal waiters, as represented by the characters above his hand.
Fig. 6. Olimlah, a slave belonging to the prince.
Abraham is reasoning upon the principles of Astronomy, in the king’s court.

Notice that he incorrectly thought that the two women in the picture were Pharoah and his son. What do you think?

Okay, so just because one founder of one religion is a fraud, you're going to reject all religion entirely? Isn't that just a little bit irrational?

 

[ErikErik]

Does anybody have anything of substance to say on here?

 

[tumbleweed41]

Does anybody have anything of substance to say on here?

Feel free to contribute.

 

[Autodidact]

note from list of homosexual animals

Bagemihl's research shows that homosexual behavior, not necessarily sex, has been observed in close to 1500 species, ranging from primates to gut worms, Bagemihl's research shows that homosexual behavior, not necessarily sex, has been observed in close to 1500 species, ranging from primates to gut worms,

NOTE "NOT NECESSARILY SEX"

these homosexual behaviors are not similar to those of homosexual humans, which IS sexual. even if they were, humans suppose to be civilized and above primitive wild animals.

note it is not i that put human homosexuals in the same class as uncivilized, unintelligent, wild ANIMALS.

O.K. tomato, here you see this imbecilic fallacious circle.

sniper: Homosexuality is wrong; animals don't do it.
reasonable person: Yes, they do.
sniper: Well that doesn't make it right!

sniper: It's right because it's right. What animals do has nothing to do with it, so why did you bring it up?

 

[Autodidact]

Okay, so just because one founder of one religion is a fraud, you're going to reject all religion entirely? Isn't that just a little bit irrational?

I failed to find that in the OP.

 

[sniper762]

humans are supposed to be more intellig ent and civilized than wild animals.

 

[Autodidact]

humans are supposed to be more intellig ent and civilized than wild animals.

*bites tongue*

 

[sniper762]

all i can say is that you are a liar about being lds.

 

[tomato1236]

all i can say is that you are a liar about being lds.

I appreciate this. So I'm a liar because I don't antagonize gay people and use dirty school-yard words to describe them? If you like, I can find plenty of literature from the LDS church encouraging love toward sinners. Are you and I not sinners? And it seems like you consider homosexual folks enemies. I can find plenty of LDS and non-LDS literature (like the bible) that teaches that we should love our enemies. You don't have to be excited about homosexual behavior, but if you're trying to adhere to ANY form of Christianity, I suggest you consider adding loving-kindness, patience, and slowness to anger to your efforts. A good way to get started would be to find a gay person in real life and sit down and have an honest conversation with them. Ask how they feel. What's their experience. If you do, probably avoid the word *****t.

Maybe then you can start to believe that I am LDS.

 

[sniper762]

i see you have deleted your last reply. not words that a true lds would use

 

[tomato1236]

I haven't deleted a reply.

 

[MW0082]

What is LDS...?

 

[tomato1236]

Here, I post again:
Originally Posted by sniper762
all i can say is that you are a liar about being lds.

I appreciate this. So I'm a liar because I don't antagonize gay people and use dirty school-yard words to describe them? If you like, I can find plenty of literature from the LDS church encouraging love toward sinners. Are you and I not sinners? And it seems like you consider homosexual folks enemies. I can find plenty of LDS and non-LDS literature (like the bible) that teaches that we should love our enemies. You don't have to be excited about homosexual behavior, but if you're trying to adhere to ANY form of Christianity, I suggest you consider adding loving-kindness, patience, and slowness to anger to your efforts. A good way to get started would be to find a gay person in real life and sit down and have an honest conversation with them. Ask how they feel. What's their experience. If you do, probably avoid the word *****t.

Maybe then you can start to believe that I am LDS.

 

[tomato1236]

What is LDS...?

LDS stands for Latter-Day Saint, a short label for a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. Commonly known as, "The Mormons".

 

[sniper762]

but you made one. too late its already been reported and will be dealt with.