Joseph Smith - Prophet of God

[McBell]

There is not god, so......

Prove it.
And yes, the onus is on you to support your bold empty claim.

 

[Katzpur]

You do realize that the founder of the Mormon Church, Joseph Smith Jr., had around 34 wives right?

Of course I realize that. Why would I not realize that?

Was he excommunicated?

Is that a serious question? Polygamy was an accepted LDS practice for a period of about 50 years. Joseph Smith had been dead for nearly 40 years when the practice was declared a felony in the United States in 1882. No one was excommunicated from the Church for having more than one wife until after 1896, when Utah was granted statehood and the practice was discontinued.

 

[Katzpur]

You mean fought for Prop 8.

Oops. Yes, that's what I meant. Just wasn't thinking as I typed.

 

[Triumphant_Loser]

Of course I realize that. Why would I not realize that?

Because you said all Mormon men caught practicing polygamy are excommunicated. I was just pointing out that Joseph Smith Jr. was a Mormon caught practicing polygamy, and was not excommunicated. As was Brigham Young, and Orson Pratt (who also accused Smith of trying to seduce his wife, Sarah.)

 

[Triumphant_Loser]

Was polygamy practiced in the Church in the past? Yes.

Is it practiced now? No.

Will a person be excommunicated for practicing now? Yes.

And, it's really apples and oranges, but nice try though.

For the record, I believe religion should be able to define "marriage" however it wants, and that the government should get out of the marriage business and perform only civil unions. But I digress, this thread isn't about that.

So why was it OK for them to practice it, but not everyone else? Were they any better than the rest of us to deserve such a privilege?

 

[Nymphs]

You mean fought for Prop 8.

Yep.

And Prop 8 isn't the only one they've fought for/against, but that is for another thread. :yes:

 

[Nymphs]

Well, it all depends on what you mean by proof. We learn scientific things through the laws of science, and we learn God's will and message through the spirit. I would no more apply the spiritual method to learn about gravity then I would the scientific method to learn about prophets.

And, yes, EVERYTHING IS AWESOME!

And therein lies the problem. The world is scientific, your spiritual beliefs cannot be proven, which makes them just beliefs, not facts.

 

[Nymphs]

Prove it.
And yes, the onus is on you to support your bold empty claim.

This particular thread isn't about the non-existence of God, it is about Joseph Smith being a prophet.

 

[Lyndale]

"prophet" of lucifer

 

[McBell]

This particular thread isn't about the non-existence of God, it is about Joseph Smith being a prophet.

Then stop trying to change the subject with irrelevant bold empty claims.

 

[McBell]

"prophet" of lucifer

It is my opinion that those like yourself, who do more to push people away from their god than they do to bring god to people, are the real source of The Satans power.

 

[Nymphs]

Then stop trying to change the subject with irrelevant bold empty claims.

I'm not.

Joseph Smith is not a prophet (no objective proof).

That's the simple answer to the question.

There is no proof for his claims. It isn't empty, it is the truth.

 

[McBell]

I'm not.

Joseph Smith is not a prophet (no objective proof).

That's the simple answer to the question.

There is no proof for his claims. It isn't empty, it is the truth.

Yet you keep repeating the empty claim "there is no god" in this thread.

One wonders why you are so intent on changing the subject every time it is pointed out you have done nothing in this thread bu make empty claims?

Are you going to present an argument any time soon?

 

[Lyndale]

It is my opinion that those like yourself, who do more to push people away from their god than they do to bring god to people, are the real source of The Satans power.

You have to know the "truth" to know the difference.

 

[Ingledsva]

You have to know the "truth" to know the difference.

Obviously, we believe you don't have the truth, or know the difference.


You have just made statements, - no proof.



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[McBell]

You have to know the "truth" to know the difference.

Ah, now comes the elitist ego trip.

So predictable.

 

[Desert Snake]

Ah, now comes the elitist ego trip.

So predictable.

opcorn:

 

[psychoslice]

Joseph Smith, well he had a great imagination that's for sure.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

"prophet" of lucifer

Lol, no. Lucifer has no prophets and, if He did, the prophet certainly wouldn't be teaching what Smith taught.

 

[Triumphant_Loser]