Curious George
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Well cheers, glad I could break your streak.
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Just Addressing Yet Another Absurd, Dishonest Atheistic Argument
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paarsurrey
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If I am wrong, that doesn't make one right. Right?
For one being right, one has to give positive evidences for one's "No-God" position non-position. Regards
paarsurrey
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Since nobody has come out with any positive evidence for "no-God" position or non-position, and God has conversed with many human beings so belief in God is most reasonable. Right? Please
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sovietchild
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I think you need to address your attempt at rewriting Islamic history books.
What is wrong with smashing the idols?
Thumper
Thank the gods I'm an atheist
You still don't get it. My evidence is that there has never been any verifiable evidence for any god yet defined. If such evidence is ever presented, I'll need to consider it, until then, consideration of existence is absurd.
Thumper
Thank the gods I'm an atheist
Well, according to the Hindu religion, it was Shiva that they conversed with. The Bagavad Gita specifically says that it doesn't matter which god you pray to, Shiva answers all prayers. You believe that don't you?
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Post it yourself.
I have no interest in conversing with you. At this point, I'm only writing about you. I don't care about your theology, and I have no respect for you, either.
No, you don't love me, and you know nothing about love.
And you are not my enemy. You're just a bigot.
Thumper
Thank the gods I'm an atheist
And one of my favorite studies --
Journal of Religion & Society Volume 7 (2005), ISSN 1522-5658, "Cross-National Correlations of Quantifiable Societal Health with Popular Religiosity and Secularism in the Prosperous Democracies" - http://moses.creighton.edu/jrs/2005/2005-11.pdf
Thumper
Thank the gods I'm an atheist
True. This used to be a clear distinction, but more and more people are trying to commingle these concepts.
If you look at an organization such as the Secular Coalition for America, they are often involved with numerous other religious organizations working to ensure that our governments (local, state, & federal) remain secular.
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Thumper
Thank the gods I'm an atheist
And now I fell I should do a shout out for the Secular Coalition for America. Herb Silverman founded this organization and is still its president. And he was the officiant at my daughters wedding a few years ago. He and his wife are really nice people!
The Secular Coalition for America, is a very worthwhile organization. If you are not a member, please consider joining and helping them out!
The Secular Coalition for America, is a very worthwhile organization. If you are not a member, please consider joining and helping them out!
It's more that a godless worldview agrees with everything we observe just fine.
This still allows the possibility of one or more irrelevant gods that don't impact us in any perceptible way; does this describe your god?
"All persons" are not who you were discussing when you made your demeaning, atheophobic comment. And to my knowledge, you have not called atheists "good" before now.
I don't believe that you are being sincere. I think you are back-peddling after digging yourself into a hole and having been condemned for it from multiple directions.
First, it was about the inferiority of atheists. Then it was about everybody is a sinner - nothing about goodness.
Now, it's both "are both good and evil."
You've made it clear that you find atheists morally defective. That's not going away.
It's also not credible that you love people that you conceive in those terms
Furthermore, it's irrelevant whether you are a Jew or not. The bigotry should be apparent to you with "Jew" substituted for "unbeliever" whoever you are.
Do you not find the scriptures with the substitutions hateful, damaging, and irrational? If so, you have the ability to see that it is just as destructive and unjustified when applied to atheists, and you have a choice to exercise some insight and correct your error, or cling to your bigoted ideas.
If you don't even find the anti-Semitic variation bigoted, then we have no basis for discussion. We're too far apart to relate to one another.
You have no idea what I've done.
There is nothing that you can do that atheists cannot do with the possible exception of believing in gods.
And you don't seem like the kind of person that I should take life advice from. You're not performing very well here.
Why love enemies? That's absurd. I've already explained to you that the best they should hope for is that others will abandon them without retaliation and in a state of indifference, that is, wash your hands of them and move on without lingering anger or resentment
Nothing more is owed.
And what is all this "enemy" stuff? How many have you had? Two people have behaved like enemies in my entire adult life. I have no respect or affection for either, and sought no revenge with either.
What exactly are you suggesting one do differently when you say to love them? What is "love" to you in this context?
paarsurrey
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Does it mean that Atheism Society has to be inimical with the religions?
Please
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Thumper
Thank the gods I'm an atheist
You are going off on a wild tangent here.
A secular government is a government that makes laws without concern for religious or spiritual arguments.
That's all we were talking about.
No, that would be business with regard to religions, rather than without.