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Just stop it guys!

Smart_Guy

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Premium Member
I talked about this before but no one heard. Being a homosexual (or accordingly whatever-sexual) does not necessarily mean doing acts believed to be specific to homosexuals including homosexual intercourse, and vise versa (not visa versa :D). Actually, I believe even showing some interest does not mean being under that kind of interest; e.g. a man had an attraction to another man in some conditions.

Err... am I talking within the topic?
 

McBell

Unbound
Stop calling same-sex actions "homosexual actions". That's not the definition of homosexual.
I don't know how your reply relates to my comment unless you are saying you didn't get the memo that homosexual is same-sex actions (my point). It has nothing to do with same-sex at all.
Except that the very definition of homosexual is same sex....

so it seems you really need to define the terms you use seeing as you are not using the commonly accepted definitions for them.
 

McBell

Unbound
Here we go. Write it in the genius for Carlita's shortest point:

Homosexual is not an adjective for same-sex acts.

There we go.

Night guys.
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Correct.
HOWEVER, and this seems to be the part you are having trouble understanding, homosexual actions is.
That you decide to break a term apart and ignore the second half of the term only HURTS your "argument"
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Except that the very definition of homosexual is same sex....

so it seems you really need to define the terms you use seeing as you are not using the commonly accepted definitions for them.

Sheesh.

Homosexuality: A person who has an attraction of someone of his or her own sex.

Same-sex: Same-gender.

Same-sex actions: Intercourse between two people of the same gender.

Homosexuality and homosexual has nothing to do with same-sex actions.

We use it a lot as if homosexuals are defined by some actions we may or may not do. Not all homosexuals have same-sex intercourse/actions. Not all heterosexuals have opposite-sex intercourse/actions. It's a generalization; and, in this case, very in accurate.

We do not say, when referring to straight people, "she performed opposite-sex genders" nor do we say "straight sex actions".

It's a generalization and inaccurate whether straight or not.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Correct.
HOWEVER, and this seems to be the part you are having trouble understanding, homosexual actions is.
That you decide to break a term apart and ignore the second half of the term only HURTS your "argument"

What is a homosexual action in relation to many topics about same-sex sex? How do you define homosexual actions other than same-sex sex?

Like @columbus was saying. He and his husband goes shopping, does that mean grocery shopping is a homosexual action?

I was just describing the definitions.

Homosexual: Is a person who has the sexual orientation of those of his same gender.

Same-sex actions: Is intercourse between any two people of the same gender.

Homosexual and homosexuality has nothing to do with same-sex actions as described above.

Why would people correlate the two when the former is sexual orientation and the latter is an action or verb?
 

Koldo

Outstanding Member
Sheesh.

Homosexuality: A person who has an attraction of someone of his or her own sex.

Same-sex: Same-gender.

Same-sex actions: Intercourse between two people of the same gender.

Homosexuality and homosexual has nothing to do with same-sex actions.

We use it a lot as if homosexuals are defined by some actions we may or may not do. Not all homosexuals have same-sex intercourse/actions. Not all heterosexuals have opposite-sex intercourse/actions. It's a generalization; and, in this case, very in accurate.

We do not say, when referring to straight people, "she performed opposite-sex genders" nor do we say "straight sex actions".

It's a generalization and inaccurate whether straight or not.

Just like I have said, this depends on definitions.

Depending on the person, willingly participating on same-sex intercourse is sufficient to characterize homosexuality.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
I don't understand your question. Can you rephrase it?

Probably why people don't understand either. Maybe my wording.

How does a person who has the same sex orientation have anything to do with sex between people of the same gender?

What makes same-sex actions homosexual?
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Just like I have said, this depends on definitions.

Depending on the person, willingly participating on same-sex intercourse is sufficient to characterize homosexuality.

It does depend, yes. I guess as a homosexual, I wouldn't define who I am by what I sometimes did. I mean, I have to study for my speech now, I don't consider that a homosexual activity. Anyone can study for a speech. Even though it depends, if homosexual and homosexuality doesn't refer to someone with the same-sex orientation or attraction to the same-sex, then what trait, other than attraction and same-sex orientation, that homosexuals have that no one else does?
 

Koldo

Outstanding Member
It does depend, yes. I guess as a homosexual, I wouldn't define who I am by what I sometimes did. I mean, I have to study for my speech now, I don't consider that a homosexual activity. Anyone can study for a speech. Even though it depends, if homosexual and homosexuality doesn't refer to someone with the same-sex orientation or attraction to the same-sex, then what trait, other than attraction and same-sex orientation, that homosexuals have that no one else does?

I understand your point. However, same-sex intercourse is characteristic of homosexuality, even though it is not exclusive to it.
 

Demonslayer

Well-Known Member
How does a person who has the same sex orientation have anything to do with sex between people of the same gender?

I certainly get your point that a same sex action does not always mean the participants have same sex orientation. But it's an odd question to ask how orientation has "anything to do" with same sex action. Would you not agree that in the vast majority of cases the participants of same sex actions also have an attraction to the same sex?

Quite frequently, orientation and actions align, even though it is not always the case, it's easy to see why people equate the two. It's not like orientation has nothing to do with sexual acts. I have sex with women directly because I am a heterosexually oriented man.
 
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