Kick Rock shoots "woke" beer.

[Kfox]

Ironically, those cans aren’t even for sale. They were a gift exclusive to Dylan. Or so the kids are telling me.
The only reason they even sent them to her is due to the following she has on Tik Tok. So people are freaking out over a random ad targeted at zoomers who probably will buy now Bud Light just to spite folks who freaked out. Since they’re fans of Dylan

Perhaps. But evidently there aren’t enough zooms buying it because from my understanding, sales of bud light are down a bit as a result of the outrage.

I think the medical term “assigned sex at birth” is more due to intersex conditions not always being obvious to the doctors on sight.
It’s probably more for plausible deniability reasons so doctors aren’t sued by folks for failing to detect various intersex conditions at birth.
Though to be fair some conditions are not detectable/diagnosable until the person reaches the age when puberty is supposed to occur. So

I don’t think “assigned sex at birth” is a medical term, I think it is more of an activist term. I mean think about it; how does the claim that a doctor will just randomly assign a gender at birth and getting it wrong, protects him from a lawsuit in a way that the claim of a doctor inspected and incorrectly determined an infants gender will not? No; I think it is an unfortunate example of activist views coloring and influencing legitimate studies.

 

[Kfox]

Right, in the same way that saying "minorities" puts lots of different groups into one group. But that doesn't mean that there aren't contexts in which putting those groups together makes sense.

We do this literally all the time.

If someone used the term minorities in a way to suggest if you have a problem with one, you have a problem with all, this would be just as wrong. Just because someone might have a problem with black people, doesn’t mean they will also have a problem with Asians as well.

 

[SomeRandom]

Perhaps. But evidently there aren’t enough zooms buying it because from my understanding, sales of bud light are down a bit as a result of the outrage.

You’re probably right
Either way it does seem beyond petty of folks to even react to. Given the circumstances
And maybe that’s what they were counting on. A bit of “outrage marketing.”
Companies have evolved along with the tech and certain “campaigns” that groups of folks have been using for the previous decade or so.

Not saying I think it’s right. But I’m kind of over everything to do with this sort of thing

If that makes sense?

I don’t think “assigned sex at birth” is a medical term, I think it is more of an activist term. I mean think about it; how does the claim that a doctor will just randomly assign a gender at birth and getting it wrong, protects him from a lawsuit in a way that the claim of a doctor inspected and incorrectly determined an infants gender will not? No; I think it is an unfortunate example of activist views coloring and influencing legitimate studies.

They’re not assigning gender, they’re assigning sex. Which is determined based on various sex characteristics. Which is then made a record of in birth certificates, for legal purposes
But the distribution of sex characteristics in human beings is through bimodal means.
Meaning that it’s not always 100 percent either way. Sometimes a mixture,
Sometimes less so on one side, sometimes more so. Just depends.
That I know is medical in nature, since that’s more or less directly from my old biology textbooks lol

 

[Friend of Mara]

Damn MF really hate pretty women with bigger PPs than them.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

If someone used the term minorities in a way to suggest if you have a problem with one, you have a problem with all, this would be just as wrong. Just because someone might have a problem with black people, doesn’t mean they will also have a problem with Asians as well.

Right. So, in that context, using the grouping would be bad. But is that the fault of the grouping itself, or of the context and meaning behind the collective term in that particular moment?

There are times when using the word "minorities" is just a simple and accurate shorthand, and other times where it may be vague and misleading. But it's not the fault of the terminology. It's about its use. It's exactly that same with LGBTQ+ etc.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

Perhaps. But evidently there aren’t enough zooms buying it because from my understanding, sales of bud light are down a bit as a result of the outrage.

I think a lot of folks who normally may reward Anheuser-busch for supporting trans rights are put off by their response and the amount of money they donate to conservative groups.

 

[Kfox]

They’re not assigning gender, they’re assigning sex. Which is determined based on various sex characteristics.

When you say "assign" it implies you have a say in what you are assigning. When a baby is born, the doctor has no say in the matter; it's all about the biological characteristics of the baby

 

[Kfox]

Right. So, in that context, using the grouping would be bad. But is that the fault of the grouping itself, or of the context and meaning behind the collective term in that particular moment?

In this instance, it's the fault of the people using the term that way. Just like if someone groups all people using the term 'mankind" there is nothing wrong with the term, but to suggest if you have a problem with one race, you have a problem with all races because they all fall under the category of mankind is to ignore reality

 

[Kfox]

I think a lot of folks who normally may reward Anheuser-busch for supporting trans rights are put off by their response and the amount of money they donate to conservative groups.

I think that is a good thing; if these corporations get grief from the left and the right; for supporting the other, maybe they will learn to stay out of politics and just provide a product for all to enjoy.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Of course the anti-woke, redneck, freedom for others haters club is out of touch with average Americans. But Reps and Cons at large usually are.

Bud Light faced a backlash over its campaign with a trans influencer. But a poll finds a majority of American beer drinkers support such campaigns.

A majority of respondents had favorable responses to brands partnering with trans personalities. Even more said they wanted brands to hire more inclusively.

www.businessinsider.com

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I don’t think “assigned sex at birth” is a medical term,

It is. You amd yours just don't (and obviously so) know dicks from dildos about the subject.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

I think that is a good thing; if these corporations get grief from the left and the right; for supporting the other, maybe they will learn to stay out of politics and just provide a product for all to enjoy.

I can agree with this. Politics would work better for the people if corporations stopped being treated like people and have monetary power over legislation.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I can agree with this. Politics would work better for the people if corporations stopped being treated like people and have monetary power over legislation.

Corporations did halt Pence's RFRA. Too many big names amd events threatened to pull out over it, ultimately preventing another laywer of legal discrimination being allowed in Indiana.

 

[Kfox]

It is. You amd yours just don't (and obviously so) know dicks from dildos about the subject.

Do you have an outside source indicating it is? Or am I supposed to just take your word for it.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

In this instance, it's the fault of the people using the term that way. Just like if someone groups all people using the term 'mankind" there is nothing wrong with the term, but to suggest if you have a problem with one race, you have a problem with all races because they all fall under the category of mankind is to ignore reality

I would agree with that.

 

[SomeRandom]

When you say "assign" it implies you have a say in what you are assigning. When a baby is born, the doctor has no say in the matter; it's all about the biological characteristics of the baby

Ehhh
Doctors technically “assign” the sex through declaration.
Maybe it means something slightly different in the medical field?
Wouldn’t surprise me since language usage is different in everyday speech Vs medical terminology. Even if they’re the same word.
But I’m not a doctor so

I do know that the term has been around for years at this point though. Been hearing of it in that context for like decades lol
And weirdly enough I think The UN had something to do with it. If I recall my biology class correctly.

Basically it came down to intersex conditions making sex “assignment” not 100% foolproof, as I understand it. Science just likes to be extra specific I guess
Idk

 

[Kfox]

Basically it came down to intersex conditions making sex “assignment” not 100% foolproof, as I understand it. Science just likes to be extra specific I guess
Idk

So how is sex determination 100% foolproof in a way sex assignment is not?

 

[SomeRandom]

So how is sex determination 100% foolproof in a way sex assignment is not?

Honestly you’re better off asking a geneticist that lol.

The way it was explained to me, iirc, is a doctor will only ever be working from an incomplete portrait whenever they are determining sex at birth.
Basically they are making an educated guess that will usually prove accurate. Outside features and maybe a few other things.
But since they are not going to bother testing chromosomes at everyone’s birth (unless it’s to diagnose any medical issue) and indeed not all intersex conditions are even diagnosable at birth without extensive examination, which again a doctor isn’t going to do that just for a mere delivery. “Assigned” is just more or less a sort of compromise. It allows the doctors to still make a determination from a medical standpoint. But with the “just in case” loophole if said determination is proven inaccurate down the line.

 

[Kfox]

Honestly you’re better off asking a geneticist that lol.

The way it was explained to me, iirc, is a doctor will only ever be working from an incomplete portrait whenever they are determining sex at birth.
Basically they are making an educated guess that will usually prove accurate. Outside features and maybe a few other things.
But since they are not going to bother testing chromosomes at everyone’s birth (unless it’s to diagnose any medical issue) and indeed not all intersex conditions are even diagnosable at birth without extensive examination, which again a doctor isn’t going to do that just for a mere delivery. “Assigned” is just more or less a sort of compromise. It allows the doctors to still make a determination from a medical standpoint. But with the “just in case” loophole if said determination is proven inaccurate down the line.

But why is the loophole available when you use the term "assign" but not when you use the term "determine"?

 

[SomeRandom]

But why is the loophole available when you use the term "assign" but not when you use the term "determine"?

Because language is weird? And our reactions differ depending on circumstance?
I dunno

Doctors are often more precise with their definitions than we tend to be.
Maybe they’ve determined that among themselves. Or agreed to it with various lawyers over the years.
Wouldn’t surprise me either way.
I mean geez. My doctor cousins still argue over the definition of “true hermaphroditism.”
As if I care. If it’s got two sets of outside features, that’s true enough for me lol