Lauren Southern makes it into Australia

[PureX]

I believe I understand your definition. I don't agree with it, but I understand it. By your definition, we are all - people of all colors - are racists, and the term loses its usefulness. At this point we're just disagreeing in semantics. That said, your definition is an extremely short hop from ratifying thought crimes, and that cannot stand.

If we live in, participate in, and take advantage of a racist socio-economic cultural system, then yes, by definition we are all practicing racists. This was the point that the "fat lesbian teacher" mentioned above was trying to make. And it is a logical, reasonable, point, whether you choose to accept it or not.

 

[columbus]

When you are white, and you are living within a society that supports and advances white people over all others in nearly every way, and nearly all the time, and you accept that advantage by participating in that racist system, and by accepting the gains you receive from it, you ARE A RACIST by your acceptance whether you like it or not, whether you realize it or not, and whether you deny it or not.

I don't know where you live, but I live in the USA. That's not how things are here.
50 years ago it was. But white privilege has been shrinking dramatically for decades. And, yes, there are still extremists who hate that. And, yes, Trump and his multilevel immorality has emboldened them in a host of unfortunate ways.

But your statement is also irrationally racist in a more politically correct sort of way. Sorry, but "It's ok to be White" is not any more racist than "Black is Beautiful" or comparable T-shirt messages. This is not 1968 any more.
Tom

 

[CruzNichaphor]

Why? So you can handwave it and attack me personally?

No - so I can be enlightened beyond any reasonable doubt that Lauren Southern is somehow an "embarrassing racist" which seems to have become the focal point of this thread.

Have I attacked you personally? I've never even met you.

 

[CruzNichaphor]

If we live in, participate in, and take advantage of a racist socio-economic cultural system, then yes, by definition we are all practicing racists. This was the point that the "fat lesbian teacher" mentioned above was trying to make. And it is a logical, reasonable, point, whether you choose to accept it or not.

Where do you actually live?

I don't know of anywhere in the West that supports a racist socio-economic cultural system.

There is equality of opportunity and public (and even closet) racists are usually totally shunned from Western society.

If you live in the West, it doesn't sound like you have much of a grip on your own surroundings or culture.

 

[CruzNichaphor]

I don't know where you live, but I live in the USA. That's not how things are here.
50 years ago it was. But white privilege has been shrinking dramatically for decades. And, yes, there are still extremists who hate that. And, yes, Trump and his multilevel immorality has emboldened them in a host of unfortunate ways.

But your statement is also irrationally racist in a more politically correct sort of way. Sorry, but "It's ok to be White" is not any more racist than "Black is Beautiful" or comparable T-shirt messages. This is not 1968 any more.
Tom

I don't understand how this simple message is so lost on so many posters here.

 

[Lyndon]

Racists are continually in denial that racism exists

 

[CruzNichaphor]

Racists are continually in denial that racism exists

Wow. Talk about glib.

So far, your posts seem to indicate that you are continually stating opinions without either:

(1) thinking things through;

(2) insight into what you are actually discussing; or

(3) a trigger happy reliance on racism as a means to propagate whatever your message is supposed to be (which is still unclear to me).

Yes - some racists will deny that racism exists - however other racists will not only acknowledge that it exists but also embrace it.

Whatever you've tried to contribute to this thread seems to be in alliance with the silly and typical SJW presumption that anyone who disagrees with them is either a racist, sexist or homophobe.

 

[Lyndon]

so you'll go to any end to defend racists like Lauren Southern, including personal attacks, great!!

 

[CruzNichaphor]

so you'll go to any end to defend racists like Lauren Southern, including personal attacks, great!!

Two things:

1. Where were you attacked personally?

2. Explain how Lauren Southern is a racist.

 

[Lyndon]

Wow. Talk about glib.

So far, your posts seem to indicate that you are continually stating opinions without either:

(1) thinking things through;

(2) insight into what you are actually discussing; or

(3) a trigger happy reliance on racism as a means to propagate whatever your message is supposed to be (which is still unclear to me).

Yes - some racists will deny that racism exists - however other racists will not only acknowledge that it exists but also embrace it.

Whatever you've tried to contribute to this thread seems to be in alliance with the silly and typical SJW presumption that anyone who disagrees with them is either a racist, sexist or homophobe.

personal attacks

 

[CruzNichaphor]

personal attacks

I know you think you were attacked personally, I am asking you to show me where I attacked you personally.

Where did I attack you personally?

 

[CruzNichaphor]

So, Lyndon, do you believe that anyone who disagrees with your opinions and decides to challenge them is attacking you personally? Wow.

You've called many posters "racists" in this thread alone several times now - those are personal attacks. Baselessly too I will add.

 

[CruzNichaphor]

So, Lyndon, do you believe that anyone who disagrees with your opinions and decides to challenge them is attacking you personally? Wow.

You've called many posters "racists" in this thread alone several times now - those are personal attacks. Baselessly too I will add.

@Lyndon

Bump

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

Baselessly too I will add.

Dog whistle racists, still racists. And not as clever as they think.

 

[CruzNichaphor]

Dog whistle racists, still racists. And not as clever as they think.

Can you elaborate on what a "dog whistle racist" is?

Sounds like a mitigated attempt at baselessly calling someone a racist to me.

I would consider such a think to be far worse than a simple veiled insult - calling anyone a racist is a very serious charge in our culture; just because you've placed a term in front of it doesn't make it any better or, even more importantly: it doesn't prove that anyone is necessarily a racist at all.

I could call someone a "dog whistle pig ****er" with no evidence back up the claim and it would be nowhere near as serious as what you've just done.

 

[Shad]

That's because you are not understanding what's been posited.

When you are white, and you are living within a society that supports and advances white people over all others in nearly every way, and nearly all the time, and you accept that advantage by participating in that racist system, and by accepting the gains you receive from it, you ARE A RACIST by your acceptance whether you like it or not, whether you realize it or not, and whether you deny it or not. You are a racist by you participation in a racist system, and by your acceptance of (and even more-so by your denial) of the advantages you continue to receive simply because you are white. Racism does not require that you be aware of it, or that you consciously approve of it. Racism isn't just a state of mind, it's also a course of action.

So unless one is a hermit they are racist to you. Pure nonsense like this is why the left is becoming a joke.

 

[CruzNichaphor]

So unless one is a hermit they are racist to you. Pure nonsense like this is why the left is becoming a joke.

Seriously.

This sort of garbage has bothered me for a while now - what been expressed in this thread has really opened my eyes as to how severely ideologically possessed people actually are.

Up until now, I had been thinking "this has to be a total exaggeration".

I actually can't believe seasoned posters here are trying to construct arguments that statements like:

"[whatever] is acceptable"

is a racist statement.

This thread is totally littered with straw man arguments against the racists that are apparently posting in this thread despite the fact that the only racist sentiment that was expressed here was the repeated supposition that:

"if you're white - you're inherently a racist" or "if you think it's okay to be Caucasian - you're inherently a racist"

Has anyone actually stopped to think about what a serious accusation calling someone a racist actually is?

The left is no longer becoming a joke; it is a joke now.

 

[Shad]

Seriously.

This sort of garbage has bothered me for a while now - what been expressed in this thread has really opened my eyes as to how severely ideologically possessed people actually are.

Up until now, I had been thinking "this has to be a total exaggeration".

I actually can't believe seasoned posters here are trying to construct arguments that statements like:

"[whatever] is acceptable"

is a racist statement.

This thread is totally littered with straw man arguments against the racists that are apparently posting in this thread despite the fact that the only racist sentiment that was expressed here was the repeated supposition that:

"if you're white - you're inherently a racist" or "if you think it's okay to be Caucasian - you're inherently a racist"

Has anyone actually stopped to think about what a serious accusation calling someone a racist actually is?

The left is no longer becoming a joke; it is a joke now.

They just feed off the emotions of self-righteousness like a drug akin to any crazy fundamentalist from a religion denouncing some social ill. Nevermind the poster is making the claim using a modern device developed from the very system they denounce. Plank eye, eye drops, etc.

 

[Lyndon]

Well according to one of the best news sources I know, she's a racist;

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-07-...ce-outside-event-for-lauren-southern/10019554

 

[Estro Felino]

Well according to one of the best news sources I know, she's a racist;

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-07-...ce-outside-event-for-lauren-southern/10019554

Omg...reading that article...are u proud of your country?