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Lawyer sends warning to GOP election officials with plans to refuse results

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LHP Mercuræn Feminist Heretic Bully ☿
Premium Member
The parties have wide legal latitude in selecting
their candidates. If the winner drops out, it's
entirely proper & legal to replace them without
holding new primary elections.
It must really grind Maga gears to see Biden
replaced with a strong candidate. They're using
the silliest arguments that no on but Biden can
run on their ticket.
I wonder how many MAGAs voted in the Democrat Primaries? The ones who are complaining about Biden withdrawing, perhaps?
 
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Clizby Wampuscat

Well-Known Member
New York.
Both Republican and Democrat parties determined the primary would not be worth the cost. As a poll worker who would have been there for the whole thing. There was a primary earlier in the spring for other offices.

"Good Afternoon,

We've been informed by the New York State Board of Elections that there won't be a Primary Election on June 25th. If you had signed up to work as a poll worker during the Primary Election, your help won't be needed. We genuinely appreciate your interest in serving as a poll worker.

The nest election is the General Election on November 5th. I may have asked you before about your availability to work on November 5th. Regardless of whether you have previously informed us, please reply to this email and confirm your availability to work on November 5th. We eagerly await your response.

Republican Deputy Commissioner
Tompkins County Board of Elections"

Still had the e-mail even.

:)
We were talking about the presidential primary.

 

Clizby Wampuscat

Well-Known Member
No, that is not correct. Benjamin Harrison, the Republican candidate won the Presidency in 1888 despite the fact that Democratic candidate Grover Cleveland won the popular vote that year.

So again, the question was:

When was the last time a Democratic President was elected by winning the electoral college despite losing the popular vote?
Yep you are right. All the dems need to do is convince people in states with low populations to vote for them. It is not rigged.

If you and the dems want it changed then why are the dems not trying to change the constitution?
 

Clizby Wampuscat

Well-Known Member
You mean days before the convention you would want all 50 states to hold new primary elections possibly with candidates who have already dropped out?
Wouldn't it be easier to just follow the convention rules for such a situation....you know, like the democrats are doing right now?
Where are these rules written down?
 

Clizby Wampuscat

Well-Known Member
The parties have wide legal latitude in selecting
their candidates. If the winner drops out, it's
entirely proper & legal to replace them without
holding new primary elections.
It must really grind Maga gears to see Biden
replaced with a strong candidate. They're using
the silliest arguments that no on but Biden can
run on their ticket.
Good luck with Harris. She will be exposed as the idiot she is if she ever hold a press conference or talks to reporters. Looks like she is going to use Bidens basement strategy to get elected.
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
Yep you are right. All the dems need to do is convince people in states with low populations to vote for them. It is not rigged.

If you and the dems want it changed then why are the dems not trying to change the constitution?
Because republicans oppose the changes. The Electoral College is the only way a republican president has any chance. If we went to a popular vote republicans will have pull back on their extremism if they want to compete for the presidency. Would that be a bad thing for the USA and the world? No. It would be great if republicans offered no one more extreme than a Romney or McCain. I never could believe that voters could elect a Trump even with the EC, but they disappointed me, and continue to show their poor judgment in supporting a disturbed man who has been convicted of criminal activity, with more trials coming.

MAGAs continue to show their corruption, and their intention to sabotage our election in November. They know their MAGA base doesn't care. You care about democrats following rules, but your own MAGA candidates following the law? Nope.
 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
Good luck with Harris. She will be exposed as the idiot she is if she ever hold a press conference or talks to reporters. Looks like she is going to use Bidens basement strategy to get elected.
Good luck with Trump. He has been exposed as an idiot, and an insane weird and dangerous idiot.

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Hermit Philosopher

Selflessly here for you
Yes, I am voting for Trump to defend our democracy.

Not for Harris and a party that it's elites ousted the elected nominee because he could not win by the party members in a primary, then installed Harris as the nominee without any debate or discussion, Bidens donations transferred to her all within 48 hours then delegates polled by the party on zoom or email with no debate or challenger that will get her the nomination. This may be legal but it is not a democratic process.

The dems need to stop lecturing everyone on what democracy is and isn't.
I’m relieved to say that I am not American and I don’t live there but as the US does have an awful lot of global power too, could you shed some light on what Trump meant when he promised a crowd that if they voted for him now, they’d “never have to vote again”. Because that does not sound very good and is a little worrying in my view…

Humbly,
Hermit
 

Clizby Wampuscat

Well-Known Member

Maybe you can do better searching for it.
You still did not show me where they can do a delegate vote for the nomination prior to their convention.

Your source says this:

Replacing a presumptive nominee before the national convention
The Democratic and Republican parties do not formally nominate candidates until delegates vote at the party's national convention. The Democratic National Convention will take place from August 19-22, 2024, and the Republican National Convention took place from July 15-18, 2024.

A party's presumptive nominee, meaning the candidate who receives an estimated majority of delegates after state nominating events, could be replaced at the convention. Delegates could elect a candidate who they were not initially bound to at the time of their state's election. Both state law and party rules govern how a delegate must vote at the national convention, including whether a delegate remains bound to a withdrawn candidate and for how many rounds a delegate remains bound to a candidate.[7]

Both parties also have delegates who are not bound to a particular candidate at the convention. The Republican Party has a total of 104 unbound delegates, and the Democratic Party has a total of 739 unbound delegates. Democratic unbound delegates can only vote if a convention proceeds past the first round of voting.

 

Clizby Wampuscat

Well-Known Member
Because republicans oppose the changes. The Electoral College is the only way a republican president has any chance. If we went to a popular vote republicans will have pull back on their extremism if they want to compete for the presidency. Would that be a bad thing for the USA and the world? No. It would be great if republicans offered no one more extreme than a Romney or McCain. I never could believe that voters could elect a Trump even with the EC, but they disappointed me, and continue to show their poor judgment in supporting a disturbed man who has been convicted of criminal activity, with more trials coming.

MAGAs continue to show their corruption, and their intention to sabotage our election in November. They know their MAGA base doesn't care. You care about democrats following rules, but your own MAGA candidates following the law? Nope.
The republicans did not write the constitution. The dems need to try to change the constitution or stop complaining. Do you want to talk about why the electoral college is better than the popular vote or just call republicans names to make you feel good?
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
You still did not show me where they can do a delegate vote for the nomination prior to their convention.

Your source says this:

Replacing a presumptive nominee before the national convention
The Democratic and Republican parties do not formally nominate candidates until delegates vote at the party's national convention. The Democratic National Convention will take place from August 19-22, 2024, and the Republican National Convention took place from July 15-18, 2024.

A party's presumptive nominee, meaning the candidate who receives an estimated majority of delegates after state nominating events, could be replaced at the convention. Delegates could elect a candidate who they were not initially bound to at the time of their state's election. Both state law and party rules govern how a delegate must vote at the national convention, including whether a delegate remains bound to a withdrawn candidate and for how many rounds a delegate remains bound to a candidate.[7]

Both parties also have delegates who are not bound to a particular candidate at the convention. The Republican Party has a total of 104 unbound delegates, and the Democratic Party has a total of 739 unbound delegates. Democratic unbound delegates can only vote if a convention proceeds past the first round of voting.


Well, that you don't like that is in the end your problem. I have no problem admitting I am biased and use feelings in the end.
So deal with it how ever you can do that. I am out of this one.
 

Clizby Wampuscat

Well-Known Member
I’m relieved to say that I am not American and I don’t live there but as the US does have an awful lot of global power too, could you shed some light on what Trump meant when he promised a crowd that if they voted for him now, they’d “never have to vote again”. Because that does not sound very good and is a little worrying in my view…

Humbly,
Hermit
Trump has said this is response:

“I said, vote for me, you’re not going to have to do it ever again. It’s true,” he said. “Because we have to get the vote out. Christians are not known as a big voting group. They don’t vote. And I’m explaining that to them. You never vote. This time, vote. I’ll straighten out the country, you won’t have to vote anymore. I won’t need your vote.”
 
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