Legal Gun Ownership Poll

[Parchment]

No party affiliation, gun owner

 

[Lighthouse]

Since this election I've given the second amendment some thought. I would like to get an idea people who own firearms and their political stance.

I happen to be liberal and own no firearms. I bring this up because for some years I have wondered what would happen if stuff hit the fan and I needed something. Well I have my legal knives and bee bee gun, lol.

If we were attacked by any sort of terrorist I would need to go to my conservative friends and borrow some of the many firearms they own. I know that sounds kinda sad but I'm a pacifist a liberal and I have young kids, you could probably just pick any of those as enough of a reason to not have firearms.

I also happen to live in a state that doesn't allow us to defend our property like they do in neighboring states. We will go to jail shooting a person trying to break in and harm our family. Not that self defense is not OK in my state but then the law will have to argue whether something was "reasonable" even if they break in our home. We have what called a "limited castle doctrine". I find this dumb. Bills to put this down did not pass.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_doctrine

I am also ok with people who have guns but don't mind reasonable restrictions.

Thoughts and comments?

I have no party affiliation, own no guns, and have small children as well.

There are home protection guns that do not kill, unless the first 2 rounds do not work. Even then, the third can be used to shoot a leg or arm.

 

[BSM1]

Voted liberal with gun. Only used for putting down sick or injured animals thought, not for home defense. Kept dismantled and locked away when not needed. Wouldn't even attempt to get to it in a home invasion, would just prioritize getting out.

I respect your decision, however, I have been in the home security business for over 30 years and many times you just don't have the luxury of leaving when you have a couple of low intelligent thugs bent on taking things from you. Often your life or security is just another 'thing' for them to possess. Although I don't agree with your thinking you should never consider using a deadly weapon unless and until you have reconciled yourself to the thought of taking another life in defense of you and/or a loved one.

 

[esmith]

Please what criteria you are using to differentiate between owning a firearm legally or illegally.
Are you using the term "legally" as specified only in the Gun Control Act of 1968. There are many localities that go beyond the GCA68.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Although I don't agree with your thinking you should never consider using a deadly weapon unless and until you have reconciled yourself to the thought of taking another life in defense of you and/or a loved one.

You had best reconciled that, because if you draw you gun and haven't, that moment of hesitation can mean the difference between you living and you dying. If you aren't serious about using it, don't draw it. Doing so only puts you in even greater danger. You may have no intention of actually using it, but rather just scaring perpetrators away, but if that doesn't work you are going to have to squeeze the trigger.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

I respect your decision, however, I have been in the home security business for over 30 years and many times you just don't have the luxury of leaving when you have a couple of low intelligent thugs bent on taking things from you. Often your life or security is just another 'thing' for them to possess. Although I don't agree with your thinking you should never consider using a deadly weapon unless and until you have reconciled yourself to the thought of taking another life in defense of you and/or a loved one.

I'm willing to take that chance. Would rather invest in a security ladder and sturdy locks than guns and gun training, excepting for work as a farmer. Especially since, in my opinion, I find gun culture for home defense vile and paranoid in my area.

 

[esmith]

You had best reconciled that, because if you draw you gun and haven't, that moment of hesitation can mean the difference between you living and you dying. If you aren't serious about using it, don't draw it. Doing so only puts you in even greater danger. You may have no intention of actually using it, but rather just scaring perpetrators away, but if that doesn't work you are going to have to squeeze the trigger.

In addition if one draws a weapon it can be considered "brandishing"
http://www.usacarry.com/brandishing-firearm/

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I'm willing to take that chance. Would rather invest in a security ladder and sturdy locks than guns and gun training, excepting for work as a farmer. Especially since, in my opinion, I find gun culture for home defense vile and paranoid in my area.

Largely and mostly I agree. If there wasn't such anti-Trans violence and if I didn't live in such a "hicksville," I wouldn't even consider getting a handgun to carry with me. Actually, I wouldn't even have it on me most times, such as at school were it's safe, but I do go to Indy every once in awhile, and that place is legitimately plagued with violence for the time being (not as bad as Chicago, but it's up there).

 

[Shadow Wolf]

In addition if one draws a weapon it can be considered "brandishing"
http://www.usacarry.com/brandishing-firearm/

I live in Indiana. Without looking, I can reasonable assume I can brandish a 10-inch S&W 500 in defense, despite the gun being way too powerful and excessive and dangerous for defense, and have face no legal repercussions. If anything, I'd probably get a medal, especially if a would be perp craps their pants and the evidence falls out of his pants.
But, that's Indiana gun culture for you.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

Largely and mostly I agree. If there wasn't such anti-Trans violence and if I didn't live in such a "hicksville," I wouldn't even consider getting a handgun to carry with me. Actually, I wouldn't even have it on me most times, such as at school were it's safe, but I do go to Indy every once in awhile, and that place is legitimately plagued with violence for the time being (not as bad as Chicago, but it's up there).

I'm pretty fortunate to live in a safe area, and one of the most liberal areas around. I did my college time downtown though, and stuck with keeping to populous well-lit streets, both eyes open and often called people for my walks at night, and had a quick button for a camera on my phone. At least a few incidents were deterred that way.

 

[bobhikes]

I have no guns but its mostly because of my State. NJ makes it a hassle to get the guns and then limits how you have to transport them and where you can use them. Would love a CO2 BB gun but they fall under the gun restrictions in NJ.

 

[Neo Deist]

I live in Indiana. Without looking, I can reasonable assume I can brandish a 10-inch S&W 500 in defense, despite the gun being way too powerful and excessive and dangerous for defense, and have face no legal repercussions. If anything, I'd probably get a medal, especially if a would be perp craps their pants and the evidence falls out of his pants.
But, that's Indiana gun culture for you.

Why in the hell would you carry a 500 for self defense? Hell, that revolver has so much recoil that if you are not damn near point blank, you miss. That and it is not a 10" barrel, it is an 8.3" barrel.

 

[esmith]

Why in the hell would you carry a 500 for self defense? Hell, that revolver has so much recoil that if you are not damn near point blank, you miss. That and it is not a 10" barrel, it is an 8.3" barrel.

I think Shadow Wolf is being a little facetious
Will help with her research so she can be a little more accurate
https://www.smith-wesson.com/firearms/model-sw500-0

 

[Neo Deist]

I think Shadow Wolf is being a little facetious
Will help with her research so she can be a little more accurate
https://www.smith-wesson.com/firearms/model-sw500-0

I know, but still. Talk about going for the extreme! A 500 is a beast.

 

[idav]

Please what criteria you are using to differentiate between owning a firearm legally or illegally.
Are you using the term "legally" as specified only in the Gun Control Act of 1968. There are many localities that go beyond the GCA68.

I assume people are following their local laws as well as any federal.

 

[idav]

Would love a CO2 BB gun but they fall under the gun restrictions in NJ.

Oh wow! Now I don't feel so bad with my BB gun but didn't consider it a "firearm".

 

[YmirGF]

So far, all the conservatives responding do not own firearms. Me included. How interesting is that?

I found the thought of liberals with guns a bit terrifying, LOL. I'll have to remember that the next time I tick one off.

In regards to the OP, being Canadian, it's never occurred to me to get a gun or rifle. I prefer to wrestle grizzlies to the ground. It's so much more sporting.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Why in the hell would you carry a 500 for self defense?

Did you not catch onto the hypotheticalness of it, or the fact I did state such a gun is "too powerful too excessive and too dangerous for defense?"
And, for your information, yes, they do make a 10 inch version, with an optional shoulder harness, and you don't have to be point blank with it because it is made for hunting.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I think Shadow Wolf is being a little facetious
Will help with her research so she can be a little more accurate
https://www.smith-wesson.com/firearms/model-sw500-0

I don't need your help, because my statement was accurate. Indeed, S&W makes a 10-inch 500.
https://www.magnumresearch.com/Firearms/Magnum-Research-500-SandW-Revolver-10-inch-Barrel.asp

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Why in the hell would you carry a 500 for self defense? Hell, that revolver has so much recoil that if you are not damn near point blank, you miss. That and it is not a 10" barrel, it is an 8.3" barrel.

And they don't even make it with an 8.3 inch barrel.