Legal Gun Ownership Poll

[Shadow Wolf]

I was moved today even further towards deciding on getting a gun. A friend of mine, her very white and very American husband who just happens to have a beard was told by a few Deplorables that he "looks Muslim" and he "doesn't belong here." My friend? Someone got ****ty with her for not supporting Trump.

 

[esmith]

Did you not catch onto the hypotheticalness of it, or the fact I did state such a gun is "too powerful too excessive and too dangerous for defense?"
And, for your information, yes, they do make a 10 inch version, with an optional shoulder harness, and you don't have to be point blank with it because it is made for hunting.

I don't need your help, because my statement was accurate. Indeed, S&W makes a 10-inch 500.
https://www.magnumresearch.com/Firearms/Magnum-Research-500-SandW-Revolver-10-inch-Barrel.asp

And they don't even make it with an 8.3 inch barrel.

Combined your post.
Obviously you do.
The revolver that you referenced is not a S&W, it is manufactured by Magnum-Research and uses .500 S&W ammunition. I don't want to belittle you, but I think you had better understand firearm nomenclature a little better before you start making statements that are false. Doing so puts you in the same category that I place many of the anti-gun crowd. I know you really don't care but just a short lecture on firearms.
A 9mm Glock is chambered for 9mm Luger ammunition. Using your criteria you would say that the Glock is a Luger.
Now using the same criteria, would you say that a 1911 45ACP S&W is a Colt since ACP means Automatic Colt Pistol.
There are many different types of ammunition. All .38 caliber ammunition is not 38 S&W and not all .45 caliber ammunition is not .45ACP

Now to your point that S&W makes a revolver that is chambered for .500 S&W makes a 10 inch barrel is false. Obviously you thought you didn't need my help when you said the S&W company makes a 10 inch barrel. They don't. The Model S&W500 manufactured by Smith&Wesson comes only with a 8.3 inch barrel. Here is the specs from S&W
Specifications
SKU: 163501
Model: Model S&W500™
Caliber: .500 S&W Magnum
Capacity: 5
Barrel Length: 8.38" / 21.3 cm
Overall Length: 15.0"
Front Sight: Interchangeable
Rear Sight: Adjustable
Action: Single/Double Action
Grip: Synthetic
Weight: 69.1 oz / 1,959.0g
Barrel Material: Stainless Steel
Frame Material: Stainless Steel
Frame Finish: Satin Stainless
Purpose: Hunting, State Compliance

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Obviously you thought you didn't need my help when you said the S&W company makes a 10 inch barrel. They don't.

I got the brand wrong. Oh well. My point still holds that the state of Indiana is likely to do nothing if you brandish that gun for defense purposes.

 

[esmith]

I got the brand wrong. Oh well. My point still holds that the state of Indiana is likely to do nothing if you brandish that gun for defense purposes.

Quite alright. Sometimes we all make mistakes. Even me

 

[Neo Deist]

Combined your post.
Obviously you do.
The revolver that you referenced is not a S&W, it is manufactured by Magnum-Research and uses .500 S&W ammunition. I don't want to belittle you, but I think you had better understand firearm nomenclature a little better before you start making statements that are false. Doing so puts you in the same category that I place many of the anti-gun crowd. I know you really don't care but just a short lecture on firearms.
A 9mm Glock is chambered for 9mm Luger ammunition. Using your criteria you would say that the Glock is a Luger.
Now using the same criteria, would you say that a 1911 45ACP S&W is a Colt since ACP means Automatic Colt Pistol.
There are many different types of ammunition. All .38 caliber ammunition is not 38 S&W and not all .45 caliber ammunition is not .45ACP

Now to your point that S&W makes a revolver that is chambered for .500 S&W makes a 10 inch barrel is false. Obviously you thought you didn't need my help when you said the S&W company makes a 10 inch barrel. They don't. The Model S&W500 manufactured by Smith&Wesson comes only with a 8.3 inch barrel. Here is the specs from S&W
Specifications
SKU: 163501
Model: Model S&W500™
Caliber: .500 S&W Magnum
Capacity: 5
Barrel Length: 8.38" / 21.3 cm
Overall Length: 15.0"
Front Sight: Interchangeable
Rear Sight: Adjustable
Action: Single/Double Action
Grip: Synthetic
Weight: 69.1 oz / 1,959.0g
Barrel Material: Stainless Steel
Frame Material: Stainless Steel
Frame Finish: Satin Stainless
Purpose: Hunting, State Compliance

I was getting ready to blast away, but you took care of it. Arguing with a CSI cop that does ballistics and trajectory over a gun is like...like...hell I don't even know. It's on a whole new level of ridiculous.

 

[Neo Deist]

I don't need your help, because my statement was accurate. Indeed, S&W makes a 10-inch 500.
https://www.magnumresearch.com/Firearms/Magnum-Research-500-SandW-Revolver-10-inch-Barrel.asp

Yes, you do need help. Someone else beat me to it.

 

[Neo Deist]

Did you not catch onto the hypotheticalness of it, or the fact I did state such a gun is "too powerful too excessive and too dangerous for defense?"
And, for your information, yes, they do make a 10 inch version, with an optional shoulder harness, and you don't have to be point blank with it because it is made for hunting.

And do you know HOW people hunt with them? They have them set on a bipod or some other brace such as a log. The recoil is crazy.

Now for a video showing how much recoil the damn thing has:

Pay attention to how high his hands go before he can recover for a follow up shot. Physics 101.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Yes, you do need help. Someone else beat me to it.

You're the one who said you have to be "point blank" to use a hunting gun.

 

[Neo Deist]

You're the one who said you have to be "point blank" to use a hunting gun.

Yes...without a bipod (such as your picture) the gun has so much recoil that you have to be point blank (see watermelon video) to hit anything.

If set up for hunting (scope/bipod) then you can hit further out.

 

[McBell]

Yes...without a bipod (such as your picture) the gun has so much recoil that you have to be point blank (see watermelon video) to hit anything.

Not true.
the range of a firearm does not change by adding a bipod or a scope.

Deer hunting with my Desert Eagle, I prefer the iron sights.
But then, I am not firing all 8 rounds as fast as I can pull the trigger.....

If set up for hunting (scope/bipod) then you can hit further out.

I agree that adding a scope and or bipod can make it EASIER to hit what you are aiming at further out.
However, a scope and or bipod does not change the range of the firearm.

 

[Monk Of Reason]

No party affiliation (thought its weird that the other options didn't list parties but just went with the vague liberal or conservative) and I own several guns. I have a weakness to revolvers and like to collect them. I currently have three and would like to have more. I especailly like the old western revolvers.

My dream gun which I do not currently own is a legitimate Colt 45. Nicknamed the peacemaker made back in 1873. Its a beautiful gun and I want one. I don't want to shoot anyone wjith it and it isn't my choice of a personal protection weapon since cilps are just easier and safer really than old school revolvers.

If there is any man on the planet who say they don't want to shoot an antique colt dragoon revolver after knowing what it was then you have a lair.

 

[idav]

A friend of mine, her very white and very American husband who just happens to have a beard was told by a few Deplorables that he "looks Muslim" and he "doesn't belong here." My friend?

Oh man this has been a thing around here since before the election, and we are a blue state. I can't even imagine some of the red states. Trump may not use the term "axis of evil" but I gotta wonder if some of the bias is religious in nature.

 

[Neo Deist]

Not true.
the range of a firearm does not change by adding a bipod or a scope.

I never said it changed the range. I am stating that it makes it easier to control. Without the bipod, your hands are subject to the weight of the weapon, and there will be an arc that the gun moves in. With a bipod or some other type of stabilization platform, the gun will be much easier to shoot, and thus more accurate.

 

[McBell]

I never said it changed the range. I am stating that it makes it easier to control. Without the bipod, your hands are subject to the weight of the weapon, and there will be an arc that the gun moves in. With a bipod or some other type of stabilization platform, the gun will be much easier to shoot, and thus more accurate.

Except you specifically said "point blank".
Now in my neck of the woods, "point blank" is range.

 

[Kirran]

It seems there's a widespread fear in America that thugs will break into your house while you're inside and attack you or rob you, necessitating firearm ownership. Is this something that actually commonly happens there?

 

[esmith]

Except you specifically said "point blank".
Now in my neck of the woods, "point blank" is range.

I think the idea is that if one can not handle the recoil of the weapon then the accuracy range has been reduced

 

[Acim]

Latest update for what this poll is showing: For every conservative that owns a gun, there are 5 liberals that do as well.

Who'd a thunk?

 

[Neo Deist]

Except you specifically said "point blank".
Now in my neck of the woods, "point blank" is range.

Ok, but my entire argument on that was talking about recoil management, not range. At no point did I ever say "adding a bipod will increase the range of the weapon by 100 yards!" Sheesh...

Are you really that hard up for an argument?

 

[suncowiam]

I'm semi liberal and do not own a gun.

I would like to go hunting one of these days and eat what I'm able to hunt. Do not care about trophies.

Considered owning a gun for self-defense but never went through with it.

 

[McBell]

I think the idea is that if one can not handle the recoil of the weapon then the accuracy range has been reduced

For the second, third, etc shot perhaps...
But not for the first.