The world is in our hands. We can either turn it into a paradise or a graveyard. To love on each other or hate on each other the choice is ours.
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The world is in our hands. We can either turn it into a paradise or a graveyard. To love on each other or hate on each other the choice is ours.
MARCELLO
Transitioning from male to female
No,they all can mean the rightest at the same without any contradiction.
Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
There are contradictions too numerous to mention. There are many contradictions and disagreements on doctrine between different sects of the same religion, and even more when you compare whole religions.
As you probably gathered, I'm not a fan of woolly syncretism.
MARCELLO
Transitioning from male to female
From the day I started to like all religions I am too blind to see the contradictions. Did I lose anything? No. Example; One of them says the holly day is on saturday,while the others insist on friday or sunday. This is not what I call as contradiction.There are contradictions too numerous to mention. There are many contradictions and disagreements on doctrine between different sects of the same religion, and even more when you compare whole religions.
As you probably gathered, I'm not a fan of woolly syncretism.
P.S. ( When will I be given my deserved Nobel of peace ?? )
Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
P.S. ( When will I be given my deserved Nobel of peace ?? )
I will award you an Ice-cream prize instead.
MARCELLO
Transitioning from male to female
No discrimination allowed, I WANT MY MY NOBEL PRIZE AND I WANT IT NOW!!'! Do you want to me to play my gender card ?I will award you an Ice-cream prize instead.
))))))
Covellite
Active Member
At least he was honest:
“You don't get rich writing science fiction. If you want to get rich, you start a religion.”
― L. Ron Hubbard
The difference between a utopia and a dystopia is... nonexistent. The cost of maintaining a utopia will invariably be oppressive and violent, and can only be run on subtle, unspoken fear.
This world is already a graveyard. It has been for the past four billion years, and will always be until Sun swallows it up. It is that which allows us to live, now. Death is the Mother of Life.
For instance all Christian sects are regarded as Christianity. They all believe in Christ.
There are contradictions too numerous to mention. There are many contradictions and disagreements on doctrine between different sects of the same religion, and even more when you compare whole religions.
As you probably gathered, I'm not a fan of woolly syncretism.
What about spiney syncretism?
Syncretism is very much a natural effect of cultural exchange, especially when between religiously tolerant cultures. Consider that the Buddha sits quite comfortably among the native Gods of Tibet, China, Korea, and Japan, despite Buddhist "doctrine" (if you can call it that) being theistically agnostic and that the Buddha himself would likely HATE this status.
I don't know about utopia but a peaceful society which there are many today, ensures an individual's rights and is not oppressive and looks after its people.
Yet not a single one is perfect. Oppression exists everywhere, it's just that it's far more present in some than others. Furthermore, there's systems of societal oppression woven into our very culture that we don't even recognize most of the time, until the oppressed come forth. The idea of binary gender comes to mind.
Covellite
Active Member
I was dealing with an utopia subject at the University. In very simple words, utopia fails because humans are striving for status, and by definition status is something that not everyone can have equally. The second important factor is the growth. Utopia is a complete order and doesn't operate with that term.
But it's important to have spiritual and moral goals in life set by both governments and people to improve the peace, security and happiness. I sent this to the Indian Government during the height of the rapes in India and suggested it as a goal they should work towards for women that until it is achieved not to to be content with a few policy changes.
‘My purpose in coming to this corrupt world where the tyrants and traitors, by their acts of cruelty and oppression, have closed the doors of peace and tranquillity to all mankind, is to establish, through the power of God and His might, the forces of justice, trust, security and faith. For instance [in the future] should a woman ..., who is unsurpassed in her beauty and adorned with the most exquisite and priceless jewels, travel unveiled and alone, from the east of the world to the west thereof, passing through every land and journeying in all countries, there would be such a standard of justice, trustworthiness and faith on the one hand, and lack of treachery and degradation on the other, that no one would be found who would wish to rob her of her possessions or to cast a treacherous and lustful eye upon her beauteous chastity!...’ Baha'u'llah
‘My purpose in coming to this corrupt world where the tyrants and traitors, by their acts of cruelty and oppression, have closed the doors of peace and tranquillity to all mankind, is to establish, through the power of God and His might, the forces of justice, trust, security and faith. For instance [in the future] should a woman ..., who is unsurpassed in her beauty and adorned with the most exquisite and priceless jewels, travel unveiled and alone, from the east of the world to the west thereof, passing through every land and journeying in all countries, there would be such a standard of justice, trustworthiness and faith on the one hand, and lack of treachery and degradation on the other, that no one would be found who would wish to rob her of her possessions or to cast a treacherous and lustful eye upon her beauteous chastity!...’ Baha'u'llah
Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
Sure, Buddhism has adapted to many different cultures. But Buddhism is different from Hinduism and Hinduism is different from Christianity and Christianity is different from Islam and so on. Why pretend that things are the same when they are not?
Groan...How many times has someone trotted out this tired old thing to try to browbeat someone into following that faith? Do you have any idea how old this gets? If you want to be a Christian, good for one but please, for the love of all that is, stop beating people over the head with your fears.
So true. But don;t you think that mindset is built out of fear? And further, has absolutely nothing to do with what Christ taught or with God? I tire of those Christians that beat me and others like me over the head with this stuff. It gets very old very fast.
I would disagree with you Riverwolf, about the part I bolded and underlined. In my state alone, we have many Hindu temples. The influx of immigrants has led to many new types of temples, etc, here in my state. I also disagree that Judaism is ethnic. It can be and is in many cases but it still is a religion, based on the religious practices that are associated with it.
Hinduism is the odd one out in that set, by being the one that isn't a single religion, but a body of several religions. Specifically religions that, unlike the other three listed, have no founder(with a few exceptions), but comprise India's organically developed indigenous religions.
Consider that in the West, we have the Four Classical Elements of Earth, Wind, Fire, and Water. That has its source in Indian philosophy. Consider also the popularity of the Horned God in Celtic polytheism, both modern and apparently pre-Christian, as well as in other modern Pagan and Neopagan religions that derive a lot of inspiration from Insular Celtic Lore. Yet this Horned God is most likely the Hellenic Pan.
Or, heck, consider the vast spread of Indo-European culture merging with so many indigenous cultures to create wholly unique identities.
This sort of thing used to be the norm.
I used the term "largely" to denote the fact that the vast majority of Hinduism's near billion practitioners live in India. It's a matter of proportions, not sheer numbers. I'm well aware that there's plenty of Hindu presence elsewhere in the world.
I also wonder if you understand what I meant by "ethnic". Check my responses below for clarification, because I called it an "ethnic religion," meaning it's absolutely a religion.
Do you not realize that by bringing the government into such matters as morality and spirituality, you're in a sense advocating a theocracy?? We're trying to get away from that!
The government deals with legalities and protections (to vastly oversimplify). Let us people ourselves worry about morality and spirituality.
A vision of the future? What do you think?
No nation with separate and restricted boundaries — such as Persia, for instance — will exist. The United States of America will be known only as a name. Germany, France, England, Turkey, Arabia — all these various nations will be welded together in unity. When the people of the future are asked, “To which nationality do you belong?” the answer will be, “To the nationality of humanity…” The people of the future will not say, “I belong to the nation of England, France or Persia”; for all of them will be citizens of a universal nationality — the one family, the one country, the one world of humanity — and then these wars, hatreds and strifes will pass away. –
No nation with separate and restricted boundaries — such as Persia, for instance — will exist. The United States of America will be known only as a name. Germany, France, England, Turkey, Arabia — all these various nations will be welded together in unity. When the people of the future are asked, “To which nationality do you belong?” the answer will be, “To the nationality of humanity…” The people of the future will not say, “I belong to the nation of England, France or Persia”; for all of them will be citizens of a universal nationality — the one family, the one country, the one world of humanity — and then these wars, hatreds and strifes will pass away. –