Leviticus and Homosexuality

[sojourner]

Perhaps, but you do injustice in doing so. Perhaps honesty is a better tactic.

What's dishonest about including only those who espouse good scholarship?

 

[Sonofason]

Yes. It is absurd.

According to who? You?

 

[Sonofason]

Do you read the texts in Hebrew and Greek? If not, then you're listening to what people say the bible says. Do you read the canonized texts? If so, you're reading what someone else says the bible says.

I study the Greek and the Hebrew texts as well, yes.

You have to trust someone.

 

[serp777]

There are several definitions of the word day.
In the most general sense, a day is a time of light, and that goes for all places in time. It is universal.

I have very good reason to believe God. I do not condemn homosexuality. God does.

I am not hoping to deserve your time. Where you spend your time is of very little consequence to me.

Please explain what existed directly after the Big Bang, as if you know?

SO then why did God allow for all nearly all mammalian species to have homosexual tendencies? Seems like he allowed this universe to make homosexuality flourish.

You sure make God sound petty if he cares about something as unimportant as who you have sex with.

"Please explain what existed directly after the Big Bang,"

Well how do you define directly after? A planck second? A nano second? A microsecond? Time was probably coming into existence directly after the big bang, whatever directly means.

 

[sojourner]

According to who? You?

And anyone else who's spent any time at all in responsible exegesis of the texts.

 

[Sonofason]

And how are you so sure that homosexuals do not "abide in Christ?" I have a dear friend and two cousins who are homosexual and devout believers. I go to church with several who are the same.

It IS you who are condemning them through a summary judgment of their spiritual condition.

I did not say that homosexuals do not abide in Christ. If they do not, they are condemned for their sin.

Who you go to church with is of little consequence with regard to the subject at hand.

 

[Sonofason]

Adam never existed. There was no first human, or first pair of humans.

There may have been a first neanderthal human hybrid though, since neanderthal DNA is incorporated in our genome.

Of course there was a first human. There could never be a human via evolution or not without a first human. Please define human.

 

[Sonofason]

Sola Scriptura is a Protestant invention. The Bible must be interpreted to be understood.

It is God who gives understanding to the wise.

 

[Sonofason]

And yet, God continues to confound the "wise" who still believe the earth was created in six days and that homosexuals are sinful.

I have already shown you your error on this subject.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

It is God who gives understanding to the wise.

Having everyone interpret the Bible for themselves has certainly done wonders for Christianity.

 

[sojourner]

I study the Greek and the Hebrew texts as well, yes.

You have to trust someone.

But you don't use commentaries.


Why do I doubt that you read in Hebrew and Greek?

 

[serp777]

Of course there was a first human. There could never be a human via evolution or not without a first human. Please define human.

Humans evolved gradually like every other species.

You should be the one defining human. Most modern day humans have neanderthal DNA in them. Some humans do not have this neanderthal DNA. Are you asking which gene would be the tipping point to make someone human? I think you can agree that's a ridiculous definition.

It's not like a chimp fetus mutated and then suddenly it became a human. A few genes changed at a time. There was no tipping point.

Humans today are evolving into something not human. Would you argue that a new gene mutation in a human today would make someone not human?

This is like asking when a kid can be defined as a teenager or vice versa. It's very slow and gradual, and there is no black and white distinction.

 

[Sonofason]

The word in Genesis translated as "firmament" is raqiya, a Hebrew word that literally translates as "hammered out dome." IF the sky is, indeed, a "hammered out dome," it is solid, rigid, and covers an earth that must be disc-shaped in order to be covered by it. Being solid, the heavenly bodies would necessarily have to be fixed upon this dome (otherwise, they wouldn't be seen).

Further, this understanding of the sky is congruent with the Sumerian and Babylonian myths out of which the creation myths were taken.






You're welcome.

Too many assumptions on your part.

 

[sojourner]

I have already shown you your error on this subject.

You haven't shown me anything but the back of your head as it sticks up out of the theological sand.

 

[Sonofason]

Philippians 2: Every knee shall bow and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord...

There are, of course, many, many others, but I'm not wasting my time, because you'll just stick your head in the sand anyway.


Good luck in your very, very, very lonely heaven.

Will Satan confess that Jesus is Lord? Will you?

 

[sojourner]

Yes, when you are devoted to self justification, of course it's important to pay attention to shades of gray.

Sounds to me as if Someone's trying to justify a hard-and-fast belief without admittedly knowing WHY.

 

[Sonofason]

Read the DSM IV. Homosexuality ain't listed as aberrant human behavior.

It is quite unnecessary for me to read the DSM IV. God's word is quite clear.

 

[sojourner]

Too many assumptions on your part.

Nope. Not assumptions, just How It Works with solid, rigid, hammered out domes.

 

[Sonofason]

:biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh:

Oh! I can't breathe! I'm wiping my eyes! My stomach hurts from laughing -- gotta stitch in my side!

Boy, do you have a lot to learn!!!!

The Jews (as well as responsible Christians) are looking for ways to read the texts with integrity and responsibility. Unlike you, by all appearances, since you seem to think that slavery is OK.

Yes slavery itself is okay. Harming others is not okay. Servitude is okay.

 

[sojourner]

It is quite unnecessary for me to read the DSM IV. God's word is quite clear.

Because "God's Word" is far, far more of an authority on psychiatry. next time you're in the hospital for a coronary bypass, try relying on the bible instead of studied medical procedures.