[LHP only] What is left hand path?

[Mindmaster]

Everyone that progresses in H☿D eventually realizes their own personal / isolate intelligence and creates their own personal dogma.
Why would you attempt to belittle something you haven't the slightest understanding of?
I'm beginning to see a pattern here . . .

Uh, calling something as it is isn't belittling it. If it's a dogma it is a dogma...

Anyway, of the people here HOD is on the shaky ground if anyone is. As far as rejecting it, I don't really see HOD as able to be rejected because it sort of appears as a chameleon.... and like those animals... It is whatever you seem to want it to be. As far as eastern LHP, nah.. no way... no way in hell.. and WLHP was invented by a woman seeking money from Christian sponsors... So... yea that...

 

[EtuMalku]

Uh, calling something as it is isn't belittling it. If it's a dogma it is a dogma...

Anyway, of the people here HOD is on the shaky ground if anyone is. As far as rejecting it, I don't really see HOD as able to be rejected because it sort of appears as a chameleon.... and like those animals... It is whatever you seem to want it to be. As far as eastern LHP, nah.. no way... no way in hell.. and WLHP was invented by a woman seeking money from Christian sponsors... So... yea that...

I'm not even going to ask you to explain all of that . . . wow

 

[Mindmaster]

I'm not even going to ask you to explain all of that . . . wow

Back on the ignore list with 1137 with you then. Ahh, I was only unblocking you to read what @Satans_Serrated_Edge said it just wasn't making sense.

 

[EtuMalku]

Back on the ignore list with 1137 with you then. Ahh, I was only unblocking you to read what @Satans_Serrated_Edge said it just wasn't making sense.

Thank H☿D . . . now we can get back to an intelligent discussion

 

[1137]

I'm not interested in your passive-aggressive ad hominem attacks, so I'll refrain from countering. I would feel like I was picking on a child.

As far as nonsense... Why don't you do some research on these subjects but not from the point of making them all say what you want (aka confirmation bias), but from the point of view from their writers and the contexts and mindsets of those people where they were drawn from? Sympathic understanding of a subject is a difficult concept.... I know...

Speaking of egocentric denial!

 

[1137]

There is a 200 post thread here with everyone trying to define it, and no two of those posts agree. Are you reading these words?

And you still had the gall to make an absolute claim, which you've now recognized twice as an unsound and invalid claim.

 

[1137]

Back on the ignore list with 1137 with you then. Ahh, I was only unblocking you to read what @Satans_Serrated_Edge said it just wasn't making sense.

Ah the ignore list, a mundane's best weapon. Your posts remind me a lot of how I was when I got here, should change after a few years of college.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

The ignore list, IMO, is about as "unLeft" as you can get. Like it, love it, dislike it, hate it...nothing should ever be "off limits" or "beneath" a follower of the Left. Ye gods! I didn't read books from authors like Mike Huckabee, Friedman Milton, or Muhammad because I like or agree with them, but because knowledge is raw cutting power and because knowing your enemy is a key element to achieving victory over your enemy.

 

[EtuMalku]

The ignore list, IMO, is about as "unLeft" as you can get. Like it, love it, dislike it, hate it...nothing should ever be "off limits" or "beneath" a follower of the Left. Ye gods! I didn't read books from authors like Mike Huckabee, Friedman Milton, or Muhammad because I like or agree with them, but because knowledge is raw cutting power and because knowing your enemy is a key element to achieving victory over your enemy.

What do you expect from a Theistic Satanist?

 

[Mindmaster]

The ignore list, IMO, is about as "unLeft" as you can get. Like it, love it, dislike it, hate it...nothing should ever be "off limits" or "beneath" a follower of the Left. Ye gods! I didn't read books from authors like Mike Huckabee, Friedman Milton, or Muhammad because I like or agree with them, but because knowledge is raw cutting power and because knowing your enemy is a key element to achieving victory over your enemy.

If I feel my IQ seeping away as I read your posts, yes I'll use the ignore list. I don't have to agree with anyone to listen to them, but some people are just flopping in the mud like a dying fish. Eventually, I get tired of seeing this tragedy and offer to help because anyone with a conscience eventually will. At that moment some people mistake it for an opportunity to bite the hand that feeds.

I've been at this a long time, longer than many of these folks have even been alive... My kids are older than some of the folks in this DIR. I've seen all sorts of folks, and seen some of them enough to know when the discussion goes to nowhere. Some people are imprisoned in thought cages and have swallowed the key. Is it my job to walk them out? Nah, because I didn't create the problem.

So, I'll share what I know and whether it is accepted by certain individuals I really won't give a care. But, if I determine not all of the cylinders are firing, like a bad tv show that I've seen before, I will just switch you off. Life is too short to waste on redundant people.

 

[EtuMalku]

If I feel my IQ seeping away as I read your posts, yes I'll use the ignore list. I don't have to agree with anyone to listen to them, but some people are just flopping in the mud like a dying fish. Eventually, I get tired of seeing this tragedy and offer to help because anyone with a conscience eventually will. At that moment some people mistake it for an opportunity to bite the hand that feeds.

I've been at this a long time, longer than many of these folks have even been alive... My kids are older than some of the folks in this DIR. I've seen all sorts of folks, and seen some of them enough to know when the discussion goes to nowhere. Some people are imprisoned in thought cages and have swallowed the key. Is it my job to walk them out? Nah, because I didn't create the problem.

So, I'll share what I know and whether it is accepted by certain individuals I really won't give a care. But, if I determine not all of the cylinders are firing, like a bad tv show that I've seen before, I will just switch you off. Life is too short to waste on redundant people.

 

[ThirtyThree]

The pain of consciousness came when Adam and Eve ate of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil and were expelled from the garden of Eden, the Ouroboric paradise of the unified psyche. Suffering and transformation are a result of the conflict between human feeling and divine knowledge.

Just no. You can not make pasta from platinum. The Bible is not about man obtaining sentience. Adam and Eve were not robots and the forbidden FRUIT (do look into what "fruit" often means in the Bible, by the way), had nothing to do with obtaining self awareness.

Why is it so difficult for people to realize that the Eden account was most likely sex with the shining one? Else the curse on Eve would have made no sense, considering the curse on her was regarding her reproductive system. Then, there is the matter Eve's twins, one of which was named Cain. Do yourself a favor? Read the book and stop reading into its verses before you use it to verify or authenticate any aspect of your ideology.

Then, even if it was not sex, and I believe it was, it absolutely was not addressing Adam and Eve being non sentient, disobeying Yahweh by some method and then becoming self aware. Isolate consciousness has NOTHING to do with the story. Stop claiming it does. Please.

 

[ThirtyThree]

Back on the ignore list with 1137 with you then. Ahh, I was only unblocking you to read what @Satans_Serrated_Edge said it just wasn't making sense.

I never place forum people on ignore but that is me. However, I do not blame you for placing this one there. Well done.

 

[ThirtyThree]

Ah the ignore list, a mundane's best weapon. Your posts remind me a lot of how I was when I got here, should change after a few years of college.

Just loving that word "mundane", right?

 

[ThirtyThree]

What do you expect from a Theistic Satanist?

Just what is that supposed to mean? Go on, tell us all?

 

[EtuMalku]

Just no. You can not make pasta from platinum. The Bible is not about man obtaining sentience. Adam and Eve were not robots and the forbidden FRUIT (do look into what "fruit" often means in the Bible, by the way), had nothing to do with obtaining self awareness.

Why is it so difficult for people to realize that the Eden account was most likely sex with the shining one? Else the curse on Eve would have made no sense, considering the curse on her was regarding her reproductive system. Then, there is the matter Eve's twins, one of which was named Cain. Do yourself a favor? Read the book and stop reading into its verses before you use it to verify or authenticate any aspect of your ideology.

Then, even if it was not sex, and I believe it was, it absolutely was not addressing Adam and Eve being non sentient, disobeying Yahweh by some method and then becoming self aware. Isolate consciousness has NOTHING to do with the story. Stop claiming it does. Please.

Try to realize that the Eden incident was simply the retelling of an earlier Sumerian tale from The Epic of Gilgamesh
While you're at it, try not assume you know what I have and have not read, what I do and do not understand.

The Fall represents mankind's and nature's fall into materialism. This Fall shields us from the spiritual world and opens an Abyss between Man and the Divine. The Right Hand Path of traditional Qabalah aims to restore the original harmonic relation between man and the Divine.
The Left Hand Path fulfills and deepens the Fall. The Dark Adept continues the Fall from the Abrahamic God to reach individual divinity.
The reason behind the Fall is often described as being hubris, man's search for knowledge and forces that originally were not meant for him to acquire. The Left Hand Path leads to a second birth, a spiritual rebirth as a god/creator.

 

[EtuMalku]

Just what is that supposed to mean? Go on, tell us all?

It means I find Theistic Satanism to be stupid, matter of fact I find Theistic anything to be stupid . . .
Speaking of stupid . . . what's with the "Luciferian" label for your religion?

 

[ThirtyThree]

Try to realize that the Eden incident was simply the retelling of an earlier Sumerian tale from The Epic of Gilgamesh
While you're at it, try not assume you know what I have and have not read, what I do and do not understand.

I never stated you had not read the book, merely that you, like most, have read into it.

The Fall represents mankind's and nature's fall into materialism. This Fall shields us from the spiritual world and opens an Abyss between Man and the Divine. The Right Hand Path of traditional Qabalah aims to restore the original harmonic relation between man and the Divine.

I value the invisible and work continually to strengthen my knowledge regarding it and my bond with it. What you speak of disturbs me.

The Left Hand Path fulfills and deepens the Fall. The Dark Adept continues the Fall from the Abrahamic God to reach individual divinity.
The reason behind the Fall is often described as being hubris, man's search for knowledge and forces that originally were not meant for him to acquire. The Left Hand Path leads to a second birth, a spiritual rebirth as a god/creator.

Explain this in more detail.

 

[EtuMalku]

I never stated you had not read the book, merely that you, like most, have read into it.



I value the invisible and work continually to strengthen my knowledge regarding it and my bond with it. What you speak of disturbs me.


Explain this in more detail.

Strictly speaking from a Qaballah / Qliphoth stance;

The original Tree of Life did not contain the material world, instead the non‑Sephira Daath existed., united by paths with Kether (above), Chokmah, Binah, Geburah and Tiphareth (below). Lucifer‑Daath, the original Serpent, represents the divine force of creation that is able to carry out the idea of creation. Lucifer‑Daath sinks down to man's level and awakens the power of creation and the sexual energy in man. Thus, man can reach the knowledge which was previously only accessible to God. The adepts of the Western Left Hand Path glorify the Fall and allow the destruction to be fulfilled. Leading away from the Tree of Life and further into the Tree of Knowledge

 

[ThirtyThree]

It means I find Theistic Satanism to be stupid, matter of fact I find Theistic anything to be stupid . . .

Your opinion of what is "stupid" is your opinion. I find your ideology to fit the same word as you use for "Theistic anything", and as a Theist, I am disgusted.

Speaking of stupid . . . what's with the "Luciferian" label for your religion?

Deal with it.