Looks like Kennedy will suspend campaign, endorse Trump

[Kathryn]

Fear not -- I am a lifelong learner, right up until today. But let me point out that I know something about what it means to learn. For example, Isaac Newton was a brilliant scientist. His world-changing Philosophiae Naturalis Principia Mathematica, first printed in 1687, presented Newton’s famous laws of motion and of universal gravitation. His work provided the foundation upon which modern physics stands, and ranks among the most important books in science history. And of course, he (co-)invented calculus.

So naturally, we should respect what he has to say, right? Well, no! Newton also believed that there was a way to turn lead into gold, and he cheerfully sentenced men to grisly death, and tried to extract "scientific principles" from the Bible. So I learned that even the most brilliant of humans should only be listened to in areas where they have actual expertise. That is, be careful what "authority" you quote. Dig deeper. Think how many conspiracy theories we could dispense with, if most of us just did that!

Keep on talking, I like what you are saying.

 

[Ebionite]

That is, be careful what "authority" you quote. Dig deeper. Think how many conspiracy theories we could dispense with, if most of us just did that!

You mean like the conspiracy theory a bunch of religious extremists led by someone from a family with business ties to the Bush administration managed to cause the complete destruction of three of the seven building of the World Trade Center?

 

[Pogo]

Keep on talking, I like what you are saying.

He'll turn you into a progressive yet. It may not be where you grew up in Texas, but.

 

[Pogo]

You mean like the conspiracy theory a bunch of religious extremists led by someone from a family with business ties to the Bush administration managed to cause the complete destruction of three of the seven building of the World Trade Center?

Yeah, that is not a bad example, please show us this authority or lack thereof?

 

[Kathryn]

He'll turn you into a progressive yet. It may not be where you grew up in Texas, but.

I only moved to Texas when I was in my thirties. He's not likely to turn me into a progressive by the way.

 

[Pogo]

I only moved to Texas when I was in my thirties. He's not likely to turn me into a progressive by the way.

Well then we obviously have to ask you where you lived before you were thirties, but your willingness to like or even tolerate his explanations is part of the slippery slope into progressivism. it is actually a very easy and comfortable place to reside. So much less worrying about what other people are doing and so much more concern for how we can all live together.

 

[It Aint Necessarily So]

Oh no, that's bad luck for Trump, being endorsed by the second most nutty candidate, Trump being the most nutty.

He's had a lot of bad luck in politics, and a little good luck (Putin, Comey). The pandemic and his inability to understand it or protect America from it cost him the 2020 election, and this sudden shift to Harris makes his chances of winning a free and fair election vanishingly small.

So close, but as Maxwell says, ....

Well then we obviously have to ask you where you lived before you were thirties

She's said Ohio.

The only smart one apparently.

That comment was in response to a comment about Trump and RFK Jr. Which one is the smart one again - the demented one going to prison or the or the one with the brain worm who kept a dead juvenile bear's corpse? I'd say that Maxwell above is Smarter than both.

I only moved to Texas when I was in my thirties.

We had lunch Friday with a couple, the man from which grew up in East Texas. He explained that he grew up in religion and ignorance and was like his neighbors until he went to university.

The (D)’s are enablers of illegal immigration.

Trump, who scuttled the bipartisan border bill, is a Republican.

 

[Pogo]

He's had a lot of bad luck in politics, and a little good luck (Putin, Comey). The pandemic and his inability to understand it or protect America from it cost him the 2020 election, and this sudden shift to Harris makes his chances of winning a free and fair election vanishingly small.

So close, but as Maxwell says, ....

She's said Ohio.

That comment was in response to a comment about Trump and RFK Jr. Which one is the smart one again - the demented one going to prison or the or the one with the brain worm who kept a dead juvenile bear's corpse? I'd say that Maxwell above is Smarter than both.

We had lunch Friday with a couple, the man from which grew up in East Texas. He explained that he grew up in religion and ignorance and was like his neighbors until he went to university.

Trump, who scuttled the bipartisan border bill, is a Republican.

That is her current abode, I don't remember that being her origin?
Be careful, we can all have senior moments. evidence

 

[Father Heathen]

I only moved to Texas when I was in my thirties. He's not likely to turn me into a progressive by the way.

But could Jesus?

 

[Pogo]

But could Jesus?

Move her to Texas or make her a progressive?
The first would be a miracle, the second a follower.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

He's not likely to turn me into a progressive by the way.

"Progressive" means "moving forward" or "advancing." Obviously a bad thing, when you think that nothing should ever change, or (worse) that everything was better before and it's time to go back (regress).

Conservatives like to ridicule progressives by calling us regressives, but they don't understand that that's what conservative literally means. Progressives want to progress: we want to fix things, make them better than they were for everyone, better, stronger, faster. And we know how to do it while creating jobs and improving the economy, the environment, raising the standard of living and the level of education for everyone -- all at the same time. While conservatives cling to a mythical “good old days” that never existed, when America was not great at all, and not even good for most people. Some of the authors of Trump's plan, Project 2025, have said things like they want to undo all the social progress we've made in the last 50 years, essentially repealing the 20th century. They want to go back to a time when there were no "leftist" programs like regulations on safe food, or housing, or child labor laws, weekends off, overtime pay, paid time off for illnesses, restrictions against industrial pollution, or on how much nature we're allowed to destroy all at once -- all that kind of stuff.

In short they want to go back to more than a century ago, when the United States was a not-so-hot place to live for pretty much everybody but rich, straight, white, Christian men, who were then the only ones who had rights. If Trump is elected again, his published plan reveals that we will lose all of our rights under the First Amendment and folks on his team have also said that they're even going after the 14th and 19th amendments too. And that's not all: electing Trump would be "unAmerican" because it would mean ending our constitutional republic and establishing an incontinent, incompetent, functionally illiterate Crime Boss as a dictator.

And some of us prefer education to indoctrination. We would rather read books than ban them or burn them. And we want people to have more rights and personal Liberties, not less. We want to make everything better while MAGA just wants to ruin everything for everyone. And they'll even vote against their own interests as long as they'll stick it to the liberals.

I say it would pay to take a look down at the gear shift in your car -- specifically at the "D" and "R" you'll find there. One of them means "go forward," and the other means "go backward."

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

But could Jesus?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Oh, is that how we're wording it now?

People make mistakes all of the time. Sadly Hillary did not admit to being wrong in her earlier stance. Perhaps that is one of the reasons that I did not like her. Most politicians do not realize that there can be great strength in admitting that you are wrong at times.

 

[Twilight Hue]

You don't decide when I stop; I do.

Plastic bags, as just one of the many, many things our species thoughlessly does that are destroying our planet and our climate, are a just a symbol. Those who would leave an unlivable planet to the people who will come after us are just as careless about life as those they too often complain about. It's just a little further off, which makes it feel less imminent.

I don't care what you think Mr Canadian. I decide what's bad based on my own experiences as a citizen of this country and I'm telling you the Democrat Party is simply bad news for the country and a massive threat to national security along with the general welfare of its citizens.

The plastic was that bad then we wouldn't have none of it as it would go the way of asbestos. It's about our freedoms and liberties being taken away in the name of health and safety, not our goddamn plastics.

Conversation ends here.

 

[Twilight Hue]

I remember him being super upset over the government regulating plastic bags, yet not at all over the government regulating women's bodies.

Let me tell you something. I'm only going to say this once is that if you look in the archives in the past, you'll find that I'm against the abortion ban. So take that "not at all" attitude of yours and start looking in my past postings.

 

[Pogo]

I don't care what you think Mr Canadian. I decide what's bad based on my own experiences as a citizen of this country and I'm telling you the Democrat Party is simply bad news for the country and a massive threat to national security along with the general welfare of its citizens.

The plastic was that bad then we wouldn't have none of it as it would go the way of asbestos. It's about our freedoms and liberties being taken away in the name of health and safety, not our goddamn plastics.

Conversation ends here.

 

[Father Heathen]

I don't care what you think Mr Canadian. I decide what's bad based on my own experiences as a citizen of this country and I'm telling you the Democrat Party is simply bad news for the country and a massive threat to national security along with the general welfare of its citizens.

Trump mishandling (and likely selling) classified documents wasn't a threat to national security?

The plastic was that bad then we wouldn't have none of it as it would go the way of asbestos.

The difference is that asbestos didn't have a powerful lobby that could buy republican legislators.

It's about our freedoms and liberties being taken away in the name of health and safety, not our goddamn plastics.

Conversation ends here.

Are speed limits, stop signs, and traffic lights forms of tyranny?

 

[Father Heathen]

Let me tell you something. I'm only going to say this once is that if you look in the archives in the past, you'll find that I'm against the abortion ban. So take that "not at all" attitude of yours and start looking in my past postings.

I remember you saying that it should be a "state's rights" thing, meaning that you believe trampling rights and liberty is cool as long as it's the state government and not the federal government. As long as the republican party bends a knee to evangelicals, it is no friend of freedom.

 

[We Never Know]

.Biden had backed a bipartisan vote that would have passed Congress, if Trump had not lobbied against it. So it was really the Republicans who lost their values on that one.

Harris is more knowledgeable and better suited than Trump to deal with immigration issues. He is the one threatening to deport millions of people through administrative action. He didn't do that during his four years in office, and it isn't the lack of cruelty that holds him back. It would be a logistical and economic nightmare for the country.

Trump was using the border to run on. Biden wanted it to run on which is why Biden waited until election year, not his first 3+ years to do anything about it. He sure didnt want Trump too have it.

Just like Trump using no taxes on tips to run on, now Harris is using no taxes on tips to run on.
She doesn't want Trump to have it.

Its all a political game. However its the first I remember one side stealing the platform/promises of the other side to run on theirself.

Must be good idea's if the dems are taking them and using them to run on.

All is fair in love and war... And its political wars that are going on.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

I remember you saying that it should be a "state's rights" thing, meaning that you believe trampling rights and liberty is cool as long as it's the state government and not the federal government. As long as the republican party bends a knee to evangelicals, it is no friend of freedom.

Republicans are trying to use that "state's rights" thing right now. They don't think the federal government should have a say in abortion -- so they give it to state governments! What makes the state any more wise on the matter -- why not county or municipal governments?

The thing about Roe v Wade is really quite simple -- no government had anything to say about it. Under Roe, every woman (the concerned party) in every part of the country could make her own choice for herself. THAT IS WHAT LIBERTY IS. @Twilight Hue, on the other hand, thinks "liberty" is whatever yields up the result that @Twilight Hue thinks is the right one. It's a bit skewed, but the best he can do.