That is completely illogical .. if "God" knows that I will be fed to a wolf for eternity, then how can a warning help me?
Same goes for your God friend. Omniscience has it's illogical drawbacks.
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Same goes for your God friend. Omniscience has it's illogical drawbacks.
muhammad_isa
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satan is beyond warnings .. our concern is to avoid his fate, by being on guard.
We all commit sins .. but we aren't all guilty of murder, for example.
Garmr and Hel are beyond warnings as well. We all do disrespectful and unkind things to one another, but we aren't all irredeemable either.
muhammad_isa
Veteran Member
No, of course not.
Some people believe that God made some people to specifically go to hell.
..such as the Calvinist protestants, for example.
I don't believe that.
I believe that a person may be a careless sinner most of their life, and for some reason they change, and become pious and die in that state.
Conversely, a person might think that they are pious and are going to "heaven", but they change and become a rebel and die in that state.
We just don't know..
The All-Father accepts your answer. He says well done wise one. Keep walking the path of Odin-Wisdom.
Wildswanderer
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Nice thought but not reality.
Wildswanderer
Veteran Member
I don't believe God chose anyone for hell but some certainly choose to harden their hearts to the point where they can no longer hear him.
Nice thought but not reality, back at ya. No one is above redemption.
That is what is instilled in each body covered in clay.
Do you not even know your own scripture?
Genesis 2:7
Ecclesiastes 12:7
1 Corinthians 6:19
Wildswanderer
Veteran Member
The third verse proves my point.
It's not us who do good but the Spirit in us.
Not everyone has the Holy Spirit, BTW.
Having a soul doesn't make us automatically good.
"As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: there is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. They are all gone out of the way, they are altogether become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one."
"The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit."
DNB
Christian
...too bad, you were almost onto something extremely profound and verifiable. Allow me to correct, or redirect you...
According to the Judeo-Christian understanding of God and man, yes, man was created in His image - as spiritual beings - able to comprehend morality and achieve transcendent thoughts.
So, yes, searching for God may not necessarily begin with introspection towards ourselves, but it patently offers an alternative or supplementary, and irrefutable, attestation to the existence of God.
...our spiritual dimension was not derived from a non-spiritual source - stardust & protoplasm.
Joshua Pryce
Member
True spiritual growth and understanding is the premise of self. Faith is believing in oneself and our ability to control goodness and working towards various kinds of successes. Spiritually being oneself is only being able to growth and develop mentally and spiritually by The Holy Spirit and also connecting to God and mirroring God. The essence of the teachings of Jesus was and is to mirror the ability and persona and relational efforts God does. We are only God in God in the person and nature and message of Jesus Christ.
God's main attributes or qualities are of course Love, but also include wisdom, mercy and justice.......
This is why we are capable of such qualities although to a limited degree due to our present imperfection.
Besides Exodus 3:14 at Exodus 3:15 we find the Tetragrammaton (YHWH) were God's name did appear.
......and as Jesus said he made his God's name known and will make it known at John 17:6; John 17:26
Not everyone pays attention to that still small voice within.
They allow the outside noises more attention
Right, God chose No one for hell. Even sinner Adam only returned back to dust - Genesis 3:19
Righteous dead Jesus only went to hell the day he died because he paid the price for our sins - Acts of the Apostles 2:27
Dead Jesus did Not go to some religious-myth hell of fire teaching, but to the Bible's hell which is the stone-cold temporary grave for the 'sleeping dead' until Resurrection Day - John 6:40; Acts of the Apostles 24:15
Resurrection Day meaning Jesus' coming 1,000 year day governing over Earth when Jesus' voice will awaken the sleeping dead back to live life again.
- John 11:43; Psalms 6:5; Psalms 13:3; Psalms 115:17; Isaiah 38:18; Ecclesiastes 9:5
If already damaged one's conscience is Not a reliable guide.
A conscience can become calloused un-feeling like flesh branded by a hot branding iron.
... besides Matthew, I find Mark 4:12 along Matthew's line of thought along with Acts of the Apostles 28:26-27
Adam had No soul. All of Adam became a living soul - Genesis 2:7
At death all of Adam became a dead soul, a lifeless soul - Genesis 3:19
Adam went from non-life to life, and ' returned ' back to non-life.
A person can Not ' return ' to a place he never was before.
All of Adam started from dust and all of Adam went back returning to dust.
Psychopaths, narcissists, sociopaths still have the ability to love, if only themselves. Spiritually they will not be as healthy as others. But another return trip or more can fix that. Everyone is drawn to the light like a moth to a flame.
God doesn't give up as humans do