Manafort found guilty on 8 of 18 counts.

[Cacotopia]

I expect him to get about 10 years. That is a long time in prison for someone his age. Although he will probably serve only half of that.

Now onto to his next trial in September.

guy should die in prison never having seen the light of day for how ever long it takes from him to die of natural causes.

White collar crimes cause the most suffering yet they suffer the least for their deeds. Murder is bad, but say bank fraud, is 100x worse in my opinion. A single murder affects the lives of the recently deceased, the latter affects 100-1000's of families. White collar crime needs capital punishment.

 

[Altfish]

He paid off Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal under the instruction of a federal candidate. I wonder who that could be?

Probably Crooked Hillary

 

[sun rise]

 

[fantome profane]

guy should die in prison never having seen the light of day for how ever long it takes from him to die of natural causes.

White collar crimes cause the most suffering yet they suffer the least for their deeds. Murder is bad, but say bank fraud, is 100x worse in my opinion. A single murder affects the lives of the recently deceased, the latter affects 100-1000's of families. White collar crime needs capital punishment.

Although I am against the death penalty I agree that these kind of crimes need to be dealt with much more harshly, more frequently, and more consistently.

There huge disparity in wealth we see is due in large part to crimes like this.

 

[shunyadragon]

Seems like typical White collar crimes so far

You have felony convictions on Manafort and Cohen, and others.

 

[shunyadragon]

Probably Crooked Hillary

AGAIN, the topic is not Hillary! Please do not attempt to derail the thread!

 

[Subduction Zone]

I expect him to get about 10 years. That is a long time in prison for someone his age. Although he will probably serve only half of that.

Now onto to his next trial in September.

It's federal. He can only get 54 days off a year for "good time" in federal prison. Also he has other charges waiting for him in DC, separate from these. He may be in for life.

 

[Subduction Zone]

AGAIN, the topic is not Hillary! Please do not attempt to derail the thread!

It was just a joke this time. No serious attempt to change the topic.

 

[Altfish]

AGAIN, the topic is not Hillary! Please do not attempt to derail the thread!

Can't you spot a joke?

 

[shunyadragon]

Can't you spot a joke?

Jokes can be toxic and derail the thread as already happened.

 

[Altfish]

Jokes can be toxic and derail the thread as already happened.

Apologies, but we're just following Trump's tactics.

 

[fantome profane]

It's federal. He can only get 54 days off a year for "good time" in federal prison. Also he has other charges waiting for him in DC, separate from these. He may be in for life.

I hope so.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I hope so.

How much time off for good behavior do you get in federal prison?

Another trial awaits Manafort in September

I seriously do not think that Manafort will be a free man again. Unless he could find some way to swing a deal where he flipped on Trump.

 

[metis]

What's amusing is that Hillary has been doing the same thing as Manafort, so I am loving this.

Here in the good old U.S.A., you're innocent until proven guilty.

 

[ecco]

At whose expense? I don't like paying for nothing as do most people, I want results- non B.S. results.

Results as in the lengthy Benghazi investigations and Congressional hearings that did not result in Clinton being found guilty of anything. An investigation (Est. cost $7,000,000) that my tax dollars helped fund.

If I have to pay for Republicans investigating Clinton, you have to pay for a Special Prosecutor investigating Trump and his cronies. As far as results, how about guilty pleas and convictions:
Flynn
Manafort
Cohen
Gates
Papadopoulos

...and the beat goes on...

 

[ecco]

My emphasis

White collar crimes cause the most suffering yet they suffer the least for their deeds. Murder is bad, but say bank fraud, is 100x worse in my opinion. A single murder affects the lives of the recently deceased, the latter affects 100-1000's of families. White collar crime needs capital punishment.

I gave your post a but wanted to repost it.

Unfortunately it will never happen. Too many lawmakers and their major contributors realize that they are just a stone's throw away from getting caught.

I would even be OK with a mandatory one-year-per-million-dollars minimum sentence.

 

[ecco]

I seriously do not think that Manafort will be a free man again. Unless he could find some way to swing a deal where he flipped on Trump.

Are you intentionally (hopefully?) ignoring the probability of a Presidential pardon?

 

[fantome profane]

Here in the good old U.S.A., you're innocent until proven guilty.

No, that only applies to white male republicans. And even then they are often still innocent even after being proven guilty.

If you are a woman, or a minority, or worst of all, a Democrat the you are just automatically guilty.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Are you intentionally (hopefully?) ignoring the probability of a Presidential pardon?

That is a real possibility, though that could be viewed as obstructing justice in the justice obstruction investigation, ironic.

In some ways I hope he does so. The guilt of Manafort is rather obvious.

 

[columbus]

Guilt is not the sole determination of intent, it's possible to be guilty even though you personally thought you didn't do a thing wrong. Regardless, it's hard to say whether Manafort and others thought they were doing something they couldn't do. What's amusing is that Hillary has been doing the same thing as Manafort, so I am loving this. I can't wait for the precedent to be established/reinforced and watch her have her *** handed to her.

Boy, the Trump supporters have come a long way since "Lock Her Up, Lock Her Up" was a regular chant at Trump rallies and Fox News.

Nowadays, they have moved from that to "Innocent until proven guilty", to "It's a Witch Hunt".

Without a trace of recognition of the irony.
Tom