Many many Chariot wheels found at bottom of Red sea.

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For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him. 17 And He is before all things, and in Him all things consist. Colossians 1:16-17 New King James Version

I believe a lot of information in life is useful, but first and foremost I believe the words and direction in the Bible before anything else, and I try to stay busy on all the words in the Bible not the words, theories or concepts that are not in the Bible.

 

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No. Orbits are determined by physics; by mass, velocity, &c. They're calculable.
And what does life have to do with anything? Is there any evidence that life was planned, and a salubrious environment was intentionally designed to accommodate it?

I respect your view and reasoning on things.

 

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I respect your view and reasoning on things.

That is like saying you respect his opinion and reasoning that ice melts, or that fire burns wood. All this stuff is easily observable.

 

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That is like saying you respect his opinion and reasoning that ice melts, or that fire burns wood. All this stuff is easily observable.

No matter how anybody slices it, the Bible gives me instruction superior to anything else. That's just my take on it, you have your own take.

 

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I am interested. All my beliefs are based on scripture, And I don't believe in hell, The truth is the only thing that is important.

How would you know if scripture is true or not?

 

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Honestly if you can't recognize it would take a God, for the sun and earth to stay at this perfect distance. What's the point of any conversation?

The distance is not "perfect". What makes you think that our orbit has to be precise? It varies a bit over the millennia. The Earth-Sun distance varies annually by 5 million kilometers or 3.2 million miles.

 

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How would you know if scripture is true or not?

The same way you do it, what makes better sense to you, is what I do, what makes better sense to me.

What makes sense to one person is trash for another person vice versa.

 

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The distance is not "perfect". What makes you think that our orbit has to be precise? It varies a bit over the millennia. The Earth-Sun distance varies annually by 5 million kilometers or 3.2 million miles.

I am not talking about or orbit, I am talking about the distance between the sun and the earth.

 

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The distance is not "perfect".

The word perfect is relative to the conversation, for life to continue to exist for literally thousands of days and years, I would say is extremely perfect.

Not even one day goes by where the sun or earth moves too close to each other or too far away, creating too much heat or too much cold for life to continue to exist, I would say that is the perfect distance between.

 

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The same way you do it, what makes better sense to you, is what I do, what makes better sense to me.

What makes sense to one person is trash for another person vice versa.

I do not make that error. I do not go by "what makes better sense". I follow the evidence. Sadly I have found that many people do not even understand the concept of evidence.

It appears that you have admitted to not having a rational basis for your beliefs which means that you cannot "know".

 

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I am not talking about or orbit, I am talking about the distance between the sun and the earth.

That distance is described by our orbit. What do you think that distance is? Do you not even know what an orbit is?

 

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No matter how anybody slices it, the Bible gives me instruction superior to anything else. That's just my take on it, you have your own take.

That is no more interesting that telling what brand underwear you prefer. Or your type of pillow.

 

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That distance is described by our orbit. What do you think that distance is? Do you not even know what an orbit is?

1. the curved path of a celestial object or spacecraft around a star, planet, or moon, especially a periodic elliptical revolution.
"the Earth's orbit around the sun"

 

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The word perfect is relative to the conversation, for life to continue to exist for literally thousands of days and years, I would say is extremely perfect.

Not even one day goes by where the sun or earth moves too close to each other or too far away, creating too much heat or too much cold for life to continue to exist, I would say that is perfect.

In that sense then there could be much greater range in distance that is limited by our current orbit. That is why I said that For the Solar System the Goldilocks Zone goes from almost the orbit of Venus to over 2/3 of the distance from the Earth to Mars' orbit:

Habitable zone - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

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That is no more interesting that telling what brand underwear you prefer. Or your type of pillow.

Thanks for your nice words.

 

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1. the curved path of a celestial object or spacecraft around a star, planet, or moon, especially a periodic elliptical revolution.
"the Earth's orbit around the sun"

Very good, you can copy and paste. Our orbit is as I just posted not the only possible orbit for a planet to have life on it in our Solar System.

 

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Very good, you can copy and paste. Our orbit is as I just posted not the only possible orbit for a planet to have life on it in our Solar System.

Thanks for the conversation I like conversations that go somewhere, thanks very much.

 

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Why can't we all just agree to disagree please?

 

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Thanks for the conversation I like conversations that go somewhere, thanks very much.

Do you see why I objected to your claim of a "perfect distance". You probably got your claim from Christian apologists. I have to warn you that they are not reliable sources. They far too often are willing to lie to defend their beliefs. An apologist is paid to support the Christian faith no matter what and that makes them far less than reliable. They do not get in trouble if they are caught Lying for Jesus. Scientists on the other hand want the truth and only the truth. A scientist can lose his job if he ever willfully lies. A scientist can be wrong. There is no problem with that happening. But lying will end a career.

 

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Why can't we all just agree to disagree please?

There is no problem with disagreeing. A person has a right to be wrong. But if a person posts 2 + 2 = 5 I will correct them. They can continue to believe that it is five, but I will correct them every time and even tell them how we know that they are wrong.