tumbleweed41
Resident Liberal Hippie
The ignorance of human anatomy displayed by our new Philosophical Theist is astounding.
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horntooth
Sextian
the fluid that women squirt is a mix or urine and vaginal lubrication.
is when man DO ejaculate, but not trough penis (but in the bladder). the orgasm happens- the semen is ejaculated.
but since the ejaculation is the only thing that can be said that defines an orgasm, women don't have orgasms- since they don't ejaculate.
Well, it's how one looks at reality. If you despise the idea of sex for pleasure as a natural phenomena, it's very easy to deny the overwhelming evidence to the contrary and maintain a stance of homophobia, misogyny, and agism (remember how he'd wish to somehow disallow post-menopausal women from having sex).
I'll even throw in another wrench to make the conversation even more interesting...women can have sex at any time of their menstrual cycle. The fertile phase of the cycle occurs at a specific time uniquely for each woman. I'd wonder if our fellow anti-pleasure member would wish to disallow sex for women during their infertile phases of their cycles.
Oh wait...actually I wouldn't be surprised if he would deny the existence of menstrual cycles.
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Smoke
Done here.
Actually, it's not.
Your argument has exactly the same validity as this one:
1. Some cats are black males.
2. "Black" is not the defining characteristic of cats.
3. Therefore "male" is the defining characteristic of cats.
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Smoke
Done here.
Wrong again. That's retrograde ejaculation, not dry orgasm.
Rakhel
Well-Known Member
Skene's gland - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
It is no urine. Some women(me included) have assumed that it is but it is not. It is actually filtered plasma. The Skene's glands, which can swell when stimulated, is now considered the female counterpart to the male prostate gland. So, yes, some of us women to ejaculate. It may not be semen, but we do "cum." and the release of that cum can be, as much as it is for men, very satisfying.
It is no urine. Some women(me included) have assumed that it is but it is not. It is actually filtered plasma. The Skene's glands, which can swell when stimulated, is now considered the female counterpart to the male prostate gland. So, yes, some of us women to ejaculate. It may not be semen, but we do "cum." and the release of that cum can be, as much as it is for men, very satisfying.
horntooth
Sextian
false analogy. cats are not humans, whereas nocturnal emissions ARE orgasms.
Retrograde ejaculation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia :
Retrograde ejaculation is sometimes referred to as a "dry orgasm."
neither did i say it is, but it contains urine.
Source?
tumbleweed41
Resident Liberal Hippie
I'll even throw in another wrench to make the conversation even more interesting...women can have sex at any time of their menstrual cycle. The fertile phase of the cycle occurs at a specific time uniquely for each woman. I'd wonder if our fellow anti-pleasure member would wish to disallow sex for women during their infertile phases of their cycles.
Oh wait...actually I wouldn't be surprised if he would deny the existence of menstrual cycles.
Yes, one would think that if the "natural order of things" was to engage in sexual intercourse strictly for the purpose of procreation, then the natural order of things would be for homo sapiens, among other primates, to only have the urge to copulate during estrus.
Oooooh, I have a bad feeling that we're just giving him more ideas to deny reality.
Next up....the debate over whether women experience estrus or actually have a menstrual cycle.
horntooth
Sextian
Female ejaculation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"In 1985 a different group studied 27 women, and found only urine"
so, some types of tests find urine in the fluid that woman squirt, which means that it certainly contains it.
the existence of urge has little to do with naturalness (/rationality) of an action a human should or should not perform.
"In 1985 a different group studied 27 women, and found only urine"
so, some types of tests find urine in the fluid that woman squirt, which means that it certainly contains it.
no, the only natural (/rational) thing fot homo sapies would be to only engage in coitus when reproduction is possible (so, not during menstruation).
the existence of urge has little to do with naturalness (/rationality) of an action a human should or should not perform.
tumbleweed41
Resident Liberal Hippie
Explain the rationality.
(PS-Estrus is not menstruation. Estrus is the period during the menstrual cycle when a female is receptive to sexual intercourse and is most likely to conceive
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It's a planet that has this as the motto:
"Lalalalalawomenandhomosexualsdon'treallyowntheirownsexualitylalalalalalalaaaaaaa......"
I have heard ridiculous arguments equating homosexuality with pedophilia and beastiality before, but this is the first time I've ever seen homosexuality lumped in with masturbation, necrophilia, and horny post-menopausal women.
Add to that argument that we should only be having sex during those very few short days within a woman's menstrual cycle where she is fertile.
And that women don't orgasm. Ever.
So uh, horntooth...you got an opinion on the use of lubricants? I'd think that you'd be all over that since women normally have vaginal secretions when they're enjoying themselves - you know - which you obviously despise and wish to deny.
Add to that argument that we should only be having sex during those very few short days within a woman's menstrual cycle where she is fertile.
And that women don't orgasm. Ever.
So uh, horntooth...you got an opinion on the use of lubricants? I'd think that you'd be all over that since women normally have vaginal secretions when they're enjoying themselves - you know - which you obviously despise and wish to deny.
horntooth
Sextian
reeeaally?! had no idea
i wrote my opinion on the subject that you mentioned. if you disagree, that' fine, if you don't understand what is my stand, your problem.
well, if this is the first time you've ever heard of a rationalist classification of sexuality, that's your fault. i have only two advices- read; think.
bravo, strawman killer.
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tumbleweed41
Resident Liberal Hippie
Well?
Again, explain your rationality.
(And please refrain from telling other members to Shut the F up. It is rude and reflects poorly on your intellect. Not to mention it is a violation of Forum Rules)
I have read. I do think. I also don't have to agree at all. So here we are back at square one where we ought to use our sources in our arguments. You provided wiki. I provided your exact same source that go against your argument. Therefore, you must provide a different source to support your argument, which frankly, is a very poor one. Do you have other sources that show or demonstrate the validity of your argument? Or do you take rationalism to the extreme and deny all sense experience and empirical evidence and go by your own misogynistic and homophobic "reasoning?"
You have yet to answer to my response on how wikipedia itself disagrees with your stance that females don't have orgasms.
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Let's give it a try.....doopey doopey doopey da da da frumchoo lagga lagga frumchoo doop.....:bounce