May 21st 2011

[tumbleweed41]

Itwillend,
Could you please give us your interpretation of the following verses.


Revelation 8:1

Revelation 12:3-4

Revelation 12:7-11

 

[Rakhel]

Israel (10 tribes) destroyed 709 BC
Israel (Judah augmented by remnants from 10 tribes)
subdued by Egypt 609 BC
Israel taken into Babylonian captivity and temple
destroyed 587 BC
Babylon conquered by Cyrus, king of Medes and
Persians (under Cyrus first contingent of
Jews returned to Jerusalem) 539 BC
Temple partially rebuilt and rededicated 515 BC
Ezra returned to Jerusalem to reestablish the law 458 BC
Wall rebuilt by Nehemiah 445 BC

SILENCE

Christ was born 7 BC
Christ was baptized 29 AD
Christ died on the cross 33 AD
Jerusalem was destroyed by the Romans 70 AD

I see what you did. You made corrections for the Herod incident.

 

[Tristesse]

Yeah that is what I thought.

TRISTESS ask anyone to read that verse and it will not come across as you explained it about rape.
In order for a man to have sex with a woman they were to be married, but in this case they had sex before they were married, and then they got married. I will address each one of you rpoints, but lets focus on this one first.

No where did it say rape, why would you assume such an awful thing? Today if I go out and meet a girl at the burger joint. I take her out to a movie, and then make my move. I have sex with her for 5 hours, and she has been ravaged. Why does that have to mean rape.
Does the words "Lay hold on her" is that what bothers you? Does that mean he raped her?
It is customery even today for families to give daughters away. I don't think it is a good thing, but it is not condoning rape.
So on this first verse you have supplied I would like to come to an agreemant that it is stretching this to say it is rape, and then he paid the dad off to cover it up.

If not, please give the reason for your position

Different bibles have different readings of that passage, and many others, I'd be more than happy to cite some more atrocious findings in the bible.

The lord said, "I will wipe mankind, whom I have created, from the face of the earth men and animals, and creatures that move along the ground, and the birds of the air, for I am grieving that I have made them"

Thats mass genocide. Good thing it's only a fairy tale. I would hate to live in a world with that kind of god. Thats only the very beginning of the bible too.

 

[Just_me_Mike]

Itwillend,
Could you please give us your interpretation of the following verses.


Revelation 8:1

Revelation 12:3-4

Revelation 12:7-11

Revelation 8:1
This verse is talking about the first part of the great tribulation. It is a period of time that is equal to 2300 days. This happened in the year 1988. The period ended in 1994. During that time no one was being saved. This is the silence part. You see when a single person is saved there is joy in heaven with the angels, but during the first part of the great tribulation no one was being saved. Also the church ended at this time as well. God gave all churches up to Satan to prepare them for judgement. In 1994, people began to be saved again, this was the next Jubilee year, and the Holy spirit began pouring out again.

Revelation 12:3-4
The red dragon is a picture of satan. When we look at the crowns on the head, we understand that Satan is viewed not as the traditional view on Tom and Jerry, but infact looks just like Jesus. This was a picture of Israel who were suppose to be God's people but rejected him. So they have the appearance of something great, but in fact are just a false representation of God. Of course the child was Jesus whom he wanted to destroy.

Revelation 12:7-11
Michael is a picture of Jesus, the definition of Michael is "one who is like GOD", so in this set of verses, it was describing what happened at the cross. Up until that point Satan had access to heaven, and appered to be winning because people have died from day one. However when Jesus rose from the dead, he gave Satan a death blow. Death no longer had dominion over our life. At this point Satan was cast out of Heaven. He was sent down to the Earth to continue his work.

 

[OmarKhayyam]

Guys, you are wasting keystrokes this case of arrested development.

I know this guy. He was on Bnet for yrs posting this same stuff. And stuff you don't want to see. If you feed him he can and will keep this up for MONTHS. He has more "weird" interpretations they you have objections.

Unless you just enjoy trolls - the Ignore feature works.

 

[Tristesse]

Guys, you are wasting keystrokes this case of arrested development.

I know this guy. He was on Bnet for yrs posting this same stuff. And stuff you don't want to see. If you feed him he can and will keep this up for MONTHS. He has more "weird" interpretations they you have objections.

Unless you just enjoy trolls - the Ignore feature works.

I figured, He doesn't make very much sense.

 

[Trey of Diamonds]

Unless you just enjoy trolls

Trolls can make good pets, as long as you don't feed after midnight or get them near water. Wait, maybe that's for something else...

 

[tumbleweed41]

Revelation 8:1
This verse is talking about the first part of the great tribulation. It is a period of time that is equal to 2300 days. This happened in the year 1988. The period ended in 1994. During that time no one was being saved. This is the silence part. You see when a single person is saved there is joy in heaven with the angels, but during the first part of the great tribulation no one was being saved. Also the church ended at this time as well. God gave all churches up to Satan to prepare them for judgement. In 1994, people began to be saved again, this was the next Jubilee year, and the Holy spirit began pouring out again.

Revelation 12:3-4
The red dragon is a picture of satan. When we look at the crowns on the head, we understand that Satan is viewed not as the traditional view on Tom and Jerry, but infact looks just like Jesus. This was a picture of Israel who were suppose to be God's people but rejected him. So they have the appearance of something great, but in fact are just a false representation of God. Of course the child was Jesus whom he wanted to destroy.

Revelation 12:7-11
Michael is a picture of Jesus, the definition of Michael is "one who is like GOD", so in this set of verses, it was describing what happened at the cross. Up until that point Satan had access to heaven, and appered to be winning because people have died from day one. However when Jesus rose from the dead, he gave Satan a death blow. Death no longer had dominion over our life. At this point Satan was cast out of Heaven. He was sent down to the Earth to continue his work.

Thank you,
You have confirmed my suspicions about your beliefs.
You are member or follower of the "Family Radio Cult"
You believe the witness of the Church is over and that God has destroyed it.
You believe all churches are apostate. That true Christians should leave their church.
You believe that God predestined who would and who would not be saved.
You believe the God allowed the Devil to take over all churches to prepare for the second coming.
You use an allegorical method of interpretation for Scripture.

That about sums it up.

 

[Heneni]

What if we think he's coming in 2011. Are you.....are you saying it will be sooner than that?

You mean...you mean,...YOU DIDNT KNOW?

Heneni

 

[Heneni]

Thank you,
You have confirmed my suspicions about your beliefs.
You are member or follower of the "Family Radio Cult"
You believe the witness of the Church is over and that God has destroyed it.
You believe all churches are apostate. That true Christians should leave their church.
You believe that God predestined who would and who would not be saved.
You believe the God allowed the Devil to take over all churches to prepare for the second coming.
You use an allegorical method of interpretation for Scripture.

That about sums it up.

Well, he's right about one thing....the condition of churches. Though not all churches but certainly A HUGE amount are in an apostate condition.

The thing is, its never a good idea to give a date. Maybe these people do it so that they can get money for a few years, and then...dissapear from the scene, like the rapture did happen. :angel2:

Now im no herold camping enthusiast, But I really believe that 2011, 2012 im not going to be here any more. Im not saying that others wont. Life will go on as usuall...you know.... My body will even be here, but it wont be me in it. LOL....MWWWAAAHAHHHHAAAA

Sorry...thougth id act crazy before someone notices.:faint:

Heneni

 

[Enoch07]

The thing is, its never a good idea to give a date. Maybe these people do it so that they can get money for a few years, and then...dissapear from the scene, like the rapture did happen. :angel2:
Heneni

I find it funny someone would mention the rapture doctrine. Considering how its not even in the bible yet so many churches teach it.

 

[Heneni]

I find it funny someone would mention the rapture doctrine. Considering how its not even in the bible yet so many churches teach it.

Yeh..the word toilet isnt in there either, but im sure they were used.

When i first discovered that the word rapture is not in the bible, i was tempted to think that its all made up! But there is the gathering of the saints, the changing in a twinkling of an eye and many more things to suggest we have to AFTERALL leave this planet, or we will be destroyed with it.

Call that rapture...call that whatever you want.... its either get off of the planet or get destroyed with it, at SOME point.

Heneni

 

[Twilight Hue]

What is this - dueling holy texts?

The exchanges between the two would be utterly priceless.

 

[Enoch07]

Yeh..the word toilet isnt in there either, but im sure they were used.

When i first discovered that the word rapture is not in the bible, i was tempted to think that its all made up! But there is the gathering of the saints, the changing in a twinkling of an eye and many more things to suggest we have to AFTERALL leave this planet, or we will be destroyed with it.

Call that rapture...call that whatever you want.... its either get off of the planet or get destroyed with it, at SOME point.

Heneni

Wont argue with you anymore about the rapture. But I have to take exception to the toilet comment. You dont wanna know what they did before toilets. :spit:haha.

 

[Tristesse]

Wont argue with you anymore about the rapture. But I have to take exception to the toilet comment. You dont wanna know what they did before toilets. :spit:haha.

Well, I guess we'll find out in 2011.

 

[Just_me_Mike]

I figured, He doesn't make very much sense.

BNET? I don't even know what that is. Anyway, it always feels good to be put into a bottle

 

[Tristesse]

BNET? I don't even know what that is. Anyway, it always feels good to be put into a bottle

I don't know what Bnet is either.

 

[Just_me_Mike]

I find it funny someone would mention the rapture doctrine. Considering how its not even in the bible yet so many churches teach it.

I am back had to go to another meeting at 3.

Let's look at 1st thessalonians ch4:v16&17

that should clear up any question if the bible teaches a rapture.

the only problem with Rapture is how peopl einterpret it.

 

[Just_me_Mike]

So here is th reality, May 21st 2011
1) Jesus will rapture his people off the earth (1st Thessalonians ch4:v16&17
2) Judgement will begin and last 5 months or 153 days. (rev ch9:vs10)
3)This judgement will finish on October 21st 2011

Many have saked me, will you sign over your posessions to me? It is not really a laughing matter, because there will be nothin left for you to receive. So it would go against my faith, belief and understanding that this is going to happen.

 

[Tristesse]

So here is th reality, May 21st 2011
1) Jesus will rapture his people off the earth (1st Thessalonians ch4:v16&17
2) Judgement will begin and last 5 months or 153 days. (rev ch9:vs10)
3)This judgement will finish on October 21st 2011

Many have saked me, will you sign over your posessions to me? It is not really a laughing matter, because there will be nothin left for you to receive. So it would go against my faith, belief and understanding that this is going to happen.

If your wrong, will you denounce christianity, or at least admit you were wrong, and stop trying to predict future events, with your ancient book of mythologies?