nawab
Active Member
allright since you have claim that Hindu scriptures do not teach about Caste system which i have read it myself but I will conclude this part. I will reluctantly agree with you that Hinduism does not approve caste system.
Now for greetings, that joining hands is a universal greeting i dont agree, even people in Europe, US, Middle East, Hong Kong, China, they all shake hands, shaking hands is universal greeting gesture.
Now regarding, if i explain aspects or teachings of Islam to Christians or Jews, they will understand what i am saying, by you saying Muhammad copied Jesus, i can also say to Chrsitians that Jesus copied everything from Moses. Allah Forbid. no, this is not like that We are a prophectic religion, Hinduism is not a prophetic religion. every prophet Law was similar or had a slight change. Like we are all Cricumcised from Adam to Muhammad all taught to be circumcised, but because of the naught of the Children of Israel, they were supposed to wander in the dessert for 40 years so, the most common animal in the dessert is camel which is haram for them as a punishment but for us muslims as our pioners were from a different tribe/community so we could eat camel. but our diet law Kosher and Halaal is the same. another example is that Moses main doctrine after the oneness of God was an eye for an eye, a tooth or a tooth but the jews took the law to the extreme there was no time for trials, Jesus brought the remedy if anyone slaps you one one cheek offer the other.
then people became too soft. Then both laws are not compatiable with society today. Now the law Muhammad brought in this regards is trials, do not oppress and dont be oppressed, if you want you can put the accussed on trial or forgive him. you yourself tell me among these 3 laws which law is compatiable with today societies.
I myself do not beleive that the state of Israel should have any right of exsistence. I explained to you we are tolerant to you guys but tolerance do not means acceptance. for example will the hindus allow the muslims to slay cows for food, no so how are hindus being tolerant.
I dont know where you have found this that Muhammad took slave girls from Allah, provide me the reference number and i will find out.
Alcohol might be still available in Muslim countries thats why we need places like Mecca and Medina since the advent of Islam Alcohol has never be found in Mecca and Medina. that why we need a place away from the rest sinful world.
The scholars they use the quran to sanction Haddiths, there cannot be Quran only we also need the Haddiths, as a commentry. During the life time of the prophet there was no problem of Haddiths but after his demise, there was this problems when some hipocrytes started to add in thier own stuff.
The miracle about salaat is that Every rigtheous Muslim at the same time 5 times a day whereever he is, stands together shoulder to shoulder, In sajdah put his head down on the floor and proclaims Allahu Akbar, Allah is Great in the same direction every circle as a centre point. all around the world facing in the same direction. I will inform you that Allah does not needs our prayer, this is only our test. What will Allah do with our prayers, He is testing us, are we submitting to him.praying in one direction is for the unity. maybe your gods need your prayers to require sustenance, Allah doesnt, he feds us but is not required to be fed. Allah is not where we pray. and Allah is not everywhere as well. Some Muslims do say that Allah is everywhere, his knowledge is everywhere he himself is not everywhere.
Allah has many attrributes which 99 are mentioned in the Haddiths they are not names e.g. the Merciful, Creator, sustener,. Even in Hinduism it says sages call him by different names but he is only one. there is a beautiful attribute in Hinudism for God almighty. Brahma.
Brahma = Al Khaliq = the Creator
Vishnu = As Samad = the sustainer
but we will disagree with you when you say the god has four faces or god is sitting on a snake or a tiger. regarding terminalogy no problem. but when you make a pratima of God then i cant accept that.
Your are very right, Islam does lay down rules & conditions for its followers, every civilised nation on earth has a consititution, the rules & regulations, if Hinduism doesnt has then it is not compatiable with todays age. you are keep on saying the world is your family then when the muslism want to eat beef why do you not let your brothers eat Beef.
For shias and sunnis beleieve the Muslims who pride themselves under these labels are very few.
but you are right just being a muslin you dont get a straight ticket to heaven but you have to earn it. after beliving in the knowledge of the unseen. the sects it was also foretold Islam is not failed but those muslims have. your right we also want to have our caliphate with our shariat as consititution, eventually it is going to happen as a promise for 40 years before the day of resurrection.
Obviously it is God who created life, whats the big deal 3 religious scriptures confirms that dont be sad, just because Hinduism didnt mentioned it, since you dont mind co-exsisting you can always beleive in a slight part of the Torah/bible regarding the creation of man.
I think you forgot my family were not brahmins, we were kshatriyas. a warrior will never back down from his responsibility as krishna said in mahabharat.
you talk about divinity of man what divinity do we have, we eat, we go to toilets, we have sex, we vomits, we get tired, the laws of earth are compulsary on us, when we touch fire we get burnt, we get sick, we die, we lust, will be raised, what divinity do you have. What is man in front of his sight
I said we desire to become his slaves, its different. well, so when are you going to awake your divinity, please inform me i like to see. The day you become divine i will be the first one to follow you but proof to me that you are divine. since you claim that you can awaken the divinity. i will love to see.
Prophet Muhammd did not mediated (this word is only used because the english language is so inferior they cannot produce a word for that type of nature) in arabic the word is Dhikr (Zhikr in urdu) He went there to rest far away from the idol worshippers, to be alone and to proclaim Allahs name. If mediation was the way, he should have done after the 1st revealation which he didnt. so you are fighting a womans battle picking words to suit yourself.
Regarding the verse in Surah Tauba(chapter 9) please read the whole thing in context alot of muslims have clarified on this point, i am tired of doing this over and over, regard from verse 1 and go the verse mentioned. you are still finding verses to suit your self.
Inshallah, if any muslim who is ignorant of the quran, i will tell him.
Now for greetings, that joining hands is a universal greeting i dont agree, even people in Europe, US, Middle East, Hong Kong, China, they all shake hands, shaking hands is universal greeting gesture.
Now regarding, if i explain aspects or teachings of Islam to Christians or Jews, they will understand what i am saying, by you saying Muhammad copied Jesus, i can also say to Chrsitians that Jesus copied everything from Moses. Allah Forbid. no, this is not like that We are a prophectic religion, Hinduism is not a prophetic religion. every prophet Law was similar or had a slight change. Like we are all Cricumcised from Adam to Muhammad all taught to be circumcised, but because of the naught of the Children of Israel, they were supposed to wander in the dessert for 40 years so, the most common animal in the dessert is camel which is haram for them as a punishment but for us muslims as our pioners were from a different tribe/community so we could eat camel. but our diet law Kosher and Halaal is the same. another example is that Moses main doctrine after the oneness of God was an eye for an eye, a tooth or a tooth but the jews took the law to the extreme there was no time for trials, Jesus brought the remedy if anyone slaps you one one cheek offer the other.
then people became too soft. Then both laws are not compatiable with society today. Now the law Muhammad brought in this regards is trials, do not oppress and dont be oppressed, if you want you can put the accussed on trial or forgive him. you yourself tell me among these 3 laws which law is compatiable with today societies.
I myself do not beleive that the state of Israel should have any right of exsistence. I explained to you we are tolerant to you guys but tolerance do not means acceptance. for example will the hindus allow the muslims to slay cows for food, no so how are hindus being tolerant.
I dont know where you have found this that Muhammad took slave girls from Allah, provide me the reference number and i will find out.
Alcohol might be still available in Muslim countries thats why we need places like Mecca and Medina since the advent of Islam Alcohol has never be found in Mecca and Medina. that why we need a place away from the rest sinful world.
The scholars they use the quran to sanction Haddiths, there cannot be Quran only we also need the Haddiths, as a commentry. During the life time of the prophet there was no problem of Haddiths but after his demise, there was this problems when some hipocrytes started to add in thier own stuff.
The miracle about salaat is that Every rigtheous Muslim at the same time 5 times a day whereever he is, stands together shoulder to shoulder, In sajdah put his head down on the floor and proclaims Allahu Akbar, Allah is Great in the same direction every circle as a centre point. all around the world facing in the same direction. I will inform you that Allah does not needs our prayer, this is only our test. What will Allah do with our prayers, He is testing us, are we submitting to him.praying in one direction is for the unity. maybe your gods need your prayers to require sustenance, Allah doesnt, he feds us but is not required to be fed. Allah is not where we pray. and Allah is not everywhere as well. Some Muslims do say that Allah is everywhere, his knowledge is everywhere he himself is not everywhere.
Allah has many attrributes which 99 are mentioned in the Haddiths they are not names e.g. the Merciful, Creator, sustener,. Even in Hinduism it says sages call him by different names but he is only one. there is a beautiful attribute in Hinudism for God almighty. Brahma.
Brahma = Al Khaliq = the Creator
Vishnu = As Samad = the sustainer
but we will disagree with you when you say the god has four faces or god is sitting on a snake or a tiger. regarding terminalogy no problem. but when you make a pratima of God then i cant accept that.
Your are very right, Islam does lay down rules & conditions for its followers, every civilised nation on earth has a consititution, the rules & regulations, if Hinduism doesnt has then it is not compatiable with todays age. you are keep on saying the world is your family then when the muslism want to eat beef why do you not let your brothers eat Beef.
For shias and sunnis beleieve the Muslims who pride themselves under these labels are very few.
but you are right just being a muslin you dont get a straight ticket to heaven but you have to earn it. after beliving in the knowledge of the unseen. the sects it was also foretold Islam is not failed but those muslims have. your right we also want to have our caliphate with our shariat as consititution, eventually it is going to happen as a promise for 40 years before the day of resurrection.
Obviously it is God who created life, whats the big deal 3 religious scriptures confirms that dont be sad, just because Hinduism didnt mentioned it, since you dont mind co-exsisting you can always beleive in a slight part of the Torah/bible regarding the creation of man.
I think you forgot my family were not brahmins, we were kshatriyas. a warrior will never back down from his responsibility as krishna said in mahabharat.
you talk about divinity of man what divinity do we have, we eat, we go to toilets, we have sex, we vomits, we get tired, the laws of earth are compulsary on us, when we touch fire we get burnt, we get sick, we die, we lust, will be raised, what divinity do you have. What is man in front of his sight
I said we desire to become his slaves, its different. well, so when are you going to awake your divinity, please inform me i like to see. The day you become divine i will be the first one to follow you but proof to me that you are divine. since you claim that you can awaken the divinity. i will love to see.
Prophet Muhammd did not mediated (this word is only used because the english language is so inferior they cannot produce a word for that type of nature) in arabic the word is Dhikr (Zhikr in urdu) He went there to rest far away from the idol worshippers, to be alone and to proclaim Allahs name. If mediation was the way, he should have done after the 1st revealation which he didnt. so you are fighting a womans battle picking words to suit yourself.
Regarding the verse in Surah Tauba(chapter 9) please read the whole thing in context alot of muslims have clarified on this point, i am tired of doing this over and over, regard from verse 1 and go the verse mentioned. you are still finding verses to suit your self.
Inshallah, if any muslim who is ignorant of the quran, i will tell him.