We Never Know
No Slack
IMO the dems actually helped the hardcore right by voting him out.
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McCarthy has been removed as Speaker of the House.
- Thread starter Evangelicalhumanist
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Wandering Monk
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I think it was a good moved for Dems to vote to vacate. Now the Republicans will get into a very public knife-fight over the next speaker. It let's the voters see how dysfunctional RepubliQans are.
Oh, and some Republicans are pushing to expel Matt Gaetz from the house.
Popcorn time.
Oh, and some Republicans are pushing to expel Matt Gaetz from the house.
Popcorn time.
It is still possible the Democrats could put McCarthy right back in. That is if he chooses to run again.
But even if someone worse than McCarthy gets in, what happens? Remember we are talking about one half of one third of the government. The new speaker would put a bill to torture kittens on live tv, and even if it passed the House it would not pass the Senate, and no way Biden would sign it.
When the Republican took the House in 2022 I predicted the would get nothing done. I am going to double, triple, quadruple down on that. No matter who or what they get to be the speaker.
They shouldn’t always side with the party. But when one of them threatens anyone who votes with the Dems, and then they vote with the Dems is a hypocrite.
Wandering Monk
Well-Known Member
If they don't get anything done it is because they can't get their caucus to vote in bloc. People can't blame Democrats for that.
I just realized, now they have another chance to elect Donald Trump as Speaker.
I would have thought a Speaker should have at least one or two areas of interest outside of himself. Can't you just see it? "Let's propose a bill saying that Trump is the greatest? Then after that we should ask the House to vote that Trump has the biggest (pick your own object -- I'm going for ego). Who cares about budget, the only real question is how much money should Trump get!"I just realized, now they have another chance to elect Donald Trump as Speaker.
McCarthy will not run, nor will he designate a preferred successor. The specter or Jim Jordan looms on the horizon.
Copernicus
Industrial Strength Linguist
At this point, the long shot Democratic strategy seems to be to wait until some small group of Republicans decides to vote with Democrats to put Jeffers or a moderate Republican in the speakership. I don't think that there is any chance that a Democrat will end up as Speaker, and it may well be that Republicans settle on someone who is not even a House member (but not Trump, of course). Democrats hold a lot of sway in the upcoming battle for the speakership, because all they need is a small number of Republicans to strike a deal. The small MAGA group that voted McCarthy out is not going to control who that is, so the new speaker will either have to be McCarthy again with some MAGA deserters or someone who is acceptable to a few Democrats. The new speaker may have to agree to compromise on some issues with Democrats. At the top of the list is keeping the government open and possibly aid to Ukraine being restored. Republicans can keep their doomed impeachment committee, since that only hurts them.
We Never Know
No Slack
Yep. He already said he won't run.McCarthy will not run, nor will he designate a preferred successor. The specter or Jim Jordan looms on the horizon.
Kevin McCarthy says he won't run again for House speaker
Earlier Tuesday, McCarthy was defiant and said he would fight efforts to strip him of the speaker's gavel. His efforts were ultimately unsuccessful.
No, I have already been properly spanked for that suggestion.
Cthulhu?
This whole situation is so absurd I am having trouble taking it seriously.
- See post #48
- As for the rest, we'll see ...
Wandering Monk
Well-Known Member
Remember, the Speaker is second in line for Presidential succession.
I know, but we have to use it so often now, it's becoming trite!
Copernicus
Industrial Strength Linguist
McCarthy will not run, nor will he designate a preferred successor. The specter or Jim Jordan looms on the horizon.
By now, you should know that absolutely nothing McCarthy says is cast in stone. He is still the favorite to end up back in the speakership, since the MAGA crowd know that they can at least bully McCarthy most of the time. I'm not sure that they can find another who is as suitably craven. So my bet at this point would be for him to undergo a thorough spanking in the MAGA woodshed and then let himself be chained back on the dais with a lot of promises he may or may not keep.
Interesting that the Republicans are so divided at the same time that the Conservative Party of the UK is so utterly divided as well.
I have no real idea of why some Democrats voted for removing McCarthy, but I would say that hoping that some sort of stability comes as a result is as good a reason as any.
Not that I am hoping for the Republican Party to show any sanity, mind you; that ship sailed some twenty years ago.
I have no real idea of why some Democrats voted for removing McCarthy, but I would say that hoping that some sort of stability comes as a result is as good a reason as any.
Not that I am hoping for the Republican Party to show any sanity, mind you; that ship sailed some twenty years ago.
So if they elect me Speaker a Jew would be third in line for President!
Wandering Monk
Well-Known Member
Boy, it's hard to tell who the real Republicans are. As time goes on, there will be more Republican factions claiming to be genuine Republicans and that all the others are RINOs.
Ok, so what would happen now when there is no official speaker? If Biden dropped dead, and somehow as he fell he knocked Harris over and she hit her head, and they are both dead. Does the speaker pro-tem become President? The only thing I know about that guy is he has a strong gavel hand.
Or does to go down the list, I think the Secretary of State is next.