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Mickiel's proof of God.

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mickiel

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You should never use the bible nor the quran as a history book or a science book....let alone trying to use the book to refute evolution.....


I certainly will, what I never do is allow others to tell me what book not to use. In Isaiah 44:24-25;" I, the Lord, am the maker of all things, stretching out the Heavens by myself, and spreading out the earth all alone, causing the omens of boasters to fail, making fools out of diviners, causing wise men to draw back, and turning their knowledge into foolishness."

This is the actual birth of the Universe, and God said he will turn the knowledge of science intake on evolution and turn it into foolishness. And I believe him. God made all things, thats why I have been posting that all things are proof of God. It does not matter to me that Atheist cannot see this, I see it.

And I will continue to witness to what I see.

Peace.
 

mickiel

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Human Consciousness is actually a part of God himself. God, like a female human, has life in him. He is a life factory, and he produced humans from his own inner self. Not the cavemen, they were physical and had no consciousness, but God placed within Adam, " A conscious Spirit", and that consciousness, that Spirit, that " Cell of God" has been passed down into all of us. This Spirit is in the " Inner man", Eph. 3:16, or it is our consciousness.

And I want to go into that.

Peace.
 

mickiel

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Its sarcastic within itself that creation will deny creator. In Eph. 3:5, a statement of intrest;" The mystery of Christ, which was not " Made Known" to the sons of men." This is where God actually created the Atheist mindset. He didnot make himself known to them, and he wants it that way. This is why people become sarcastic and bitter. There is a vital missing ingredient that has been denied them, and not only them, but thousands of Christians too, who believe themselves to be conscious of God.

A believer can believe in God, try to obey him, agree with the bible, but still not be conscious of God. Which is really sarcastic.

Peace.
 

mickiel

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Music, just another proof of God, and its in everyone.

The proofs of God are millions, and they are all around us. And I am going to show your mind how to key in on those proofs.

Peace.


In Col.1:16, " For by him all things were created". Listen, all things means just that, everything, including music. Music is a unique proof of God, and the diversity that is in God. We all are unique and different, but each of us are an actual part of God, which reveals how diverse this great being must be. All music is sound, but look at the diversity in the sounds and vocies. Where did that come from? Why is it in us?

And I want to get into that.

Peace.
 

mickiel

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The Universe is winding down, like a clock designed to do so. With all the accomplishments of humanity, I still sense that we are heading for things beyond our control, and we will end up hurting each other in dynamic ways. Destiny has an Order about itself. Matt. 24:21, a great era of tribulation is comming to this planet. Americans are spoiled, but the suffering is comming. Even suffering has an Order to it.

And I want to go into that.

Peace.
 

Dirty Penguin

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I certainly will, what I never do is allow others to tell me what book not to use.

Considering it's not a history book or a science book using it against evolution is futile.

In Isaiah 44:24-25;" I, the Lord, am the maker of all things, stretching out the Heavens by myself, and spreading out the earth all alone, causing the omens of boasters to fail, making fools out of diviners, causing wise men to draw back, and turning their knowledge into foolishness."

It doesn't refute evolution. Not one bit. The theory remains intact and unchanged by your bible.

In FACT...NO RELIGION on the planet, not Judaism, Islam NOT Even your great Christianity....can or could ever rock the foundation of Evolution.
 

mickiel

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In FACT...NO RELIGION on the planet, not Judaism, Islam NOT Even your great Christianity....can or could ever rock the foundation of Evolution.

Christianity means nothing to me, and its certainly not great in my view. Christianity is just as meaningless as evolution, both are shadows of greater things to come.

Peace.
 

Dirty Penguin

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Christianity means nothing to me, and its certainly not great in my view. Christianity is just as meaningless as evolution, both are shadows of greater things to come.

Peace.

Regardless....NO religion on the planet nor ANY theological concept has ever been able to shake the foundation of Evolution. People have tried and failed.....
 

mickiel

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Regardless....NO religion on the planet nor ANY theological concept has ever been able to shake the foundation of Evolution. People have tried and failed.....


Evolution has no foundation, its a theory that has not advanced from a theory to proof. Its a quess. Even science has not been able to prove evolution, you just have faith in it. Faith, Atheist have faith in evolution, because they are denied faith in God. There is no failure in debunking theory.

Peace.
 

Tristesse

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Evolution has no foundation, its a theory that has not advanced from a theory to proof. Its a quess. Even science has not been able to prove evolution, you just have faith in it. Faith, Atheist have faith in evolution, because they are denied faith in God. There is no failure in debunking theory.

Peace.

I am so tired of this "only a theory" crap. A theory in science is the highest degree, there isn't anything higher than a theory in science. It's not a guess or a hunch, it's a well supported well documented explanation for our observations. Most often theory and fact in science are one in the same, the reason why it's called theory is because it explains the observed fact. The explanation is called a theory.
 

mickiel

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I am so tired of this "only a theory" crap. A theory in science is the highest degree, there isn't anything higher than a theory in science. It's not a guess or a hunch, it's a well supported well documented explanation for our observations. Most often theory and fact in science are one in the same, the reason why it's called theory is because it explains the observed fact. The explanation is called a theory.


Its well documented that certain humans deny their God, and seek to replace him with fables. God is the highest degree, your view of that truth is distorted. So science is your god, you must seek salvation from it. But science cannot teach you Love, it willnot give you compassion, it cannot create honesty, it has nothing to do with Joy and Peace. Your faith in science does not teach governments how to get along, and does absolutely nothing in helping you to raise your children. God offers all of this, and science offers nothing to help in the real world of humanity.

Peace.
 

Dirty Penguin

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Foundation. Hmm. Can you use that word in another sentence? I just want to make sure we're on the same page with our definitions here.

I could but I think I need to. My point was you can take any or every religious story on the planet of man's creation or beginnings (mind you some of these stories were borrowed from other stories) and it still would not be evidence or proof to refute the ToE. ToE is not about nor has it ever shown there are no gods or that gods or "God" is not the creator. ToE is not about creation but "some" theist insist on making it out to be that.
 

Dirty Penguin

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Evolution has no foundation, its a theory that has not advanced from a theory to proof. Its a quess. Even science has not been able to prove evolution, you just have faith in it. Faith, Atheist have faith in evolution, because they are denied faith in God. There is no failure in debunking theory.

Peace.


Yea...see this is why I asked if you knew the difference from "proof" and "evidence"...Science does not work the way you want it to. I've never heard that it "proves" this or that...rather (the evidence shows.....)....


You rattle on about "God"....this and "God" that....forgetting that your god is not the only one. For all you know...it was one of the Hindu gods that was responsible for creation...but you won't admit that because your many years of theological brainwashing has convinced (programmed) you into believing your god was and is creator...even though neither you nor the Hindu have"proof" of what you claim unless you appeal to your faith or the scriptures you possess.


My apologies for any person of the Hindu faith if you take offense to my comparison....:sorry1:
 

Dirty Penguin

Master Of Ceremony
Its well documented that certain humans deny their God, and seek to replace him with fables. God is the highest degree, your view of that truth is distorted. So science is your god, you must seek salvation from it. But science cannot teach you Love, it willnot give you compassion, it cannot create honesty, it has nothing to do with Joy and Peace. Your faith in science does not teach governments how to get along, and does absolutely nothing in helping you to raise your children. God offers all of this, and science offers nothing to help in the real world of humanity.

Peace.


You have to be more specific. Science is an Umbrella term and under that umbrella are many fields of science....and you'd be hard press to take any of to say that don't contribute to our humanity.
 

Dirty Penguin

Master Of Ceremony
I was actually asking Mickiel. You, I think we're on similar pages. :)

Oops..!

Mickiel wants an audience tis all....I'm bored so I'll play along with him. That's why I'm to the point of stating...(religion vs. ToE) and nothing in the religion can shake the theory...
 
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