Mickiel's proof of God.

[mickiel]

As you wish young Richard, I will totally ignore your post.

Peace.

 

[richardlowellt]

As you wish young Richard, I will totally ignore your post.

And I will look forward to yours.

 

[The Neo Nerd]

I understand the reaction from Atheist that I receive, childish outbursts that root from frustration. Continuous sarcasm as an expression of language. Insulting as a way of reaction, all this I continually see comming from Atheist, comming out of them. Now it comes out, because thats whats in there. Once we see whats inside of someone, we then know what they are made of. When you are made of constant cynicism, continual sarcasm, you have nothing to offer humanity, but those things itself, and you add to the growing habits in conversation that these ways of being has birthed.

Writing insults, giant letters, bold sarcasm, as we did when we were children. So when adults have been seduced into the reaction of children, what that really shows is a spoiled human that is not getting their way with something, so it is really them who are crying, and they are not going to give you any of their candy, they will punish you by insulting you.

Peace.

Yes this born of frustration. You have put forth your viewpoint in a DISCUSSION forum. But when your viewpoint is challenged (which is our right as part of a discussion) you refuse to discuss it because we are atheists and therefore not worthy of your attention.

When asked some very simple questions about your view point you refuse to answer them.

When asked to explain your viewpoints in further depth you refuse to.

So when faced with this ignorance, arrogance and intellectual immaturity and with no respite in sight we can only laugh.

If you would like to have your views taken seriously please discuss them.

-Q

 

[Tiberius]

I like you Tiberius, you are reasonable, and I agree, it is madness, I admit to being in the Darkness, my opinions affected by it. But in my madness, I do neglect debate " As others define it", I do not debate to convince, I debate to get off my chest, whats on it. Like a whirlwind inside of me, I just have to get it out of me, with no concern of how it is received. Which is madness. Yet what puzzles me, as other Atheist tell me that no one wants to listen to me, is I have two post here that I exhale myself in. One has over 17,000 views, this one over 4,000, both continue to grow. Explain to me why people are viewing the madness? And this phenom happens on any site I post on. Why should I listen to some Atheist try to dictate terms of communication to me, when I have no problem expressing myself, or being listened to by others?

Peace.

What you are doing in this thread is not debating. That's why I said you are probably in the wrong place. What you are doing is stating an opinion.

And I am not trying to dictate terms of communication. This website is, because you are in the "Debate" section. It is assumed and expected that threads in here are for the purpose of actual debate. Not getting things off your chest.

 

[mickiel]

What you are doing in this thread is not debating. That's why I said you are probably in the wrong place. What you are doing is stating an opinion.

And I am not trying to dictate terms of communication. This website is, because you are in the "Debate" section. It is assumed and expected that threads in here are for the purpose of actual debate. Not getting things off your chest.

I will debate by my own terms, not others. And I have done as such. Atheist demand proof in debate, I am not the one to try and prove the things I believe in debate. So I am not a normal debater, I set my own terms and I follow them. I do not debate to prove or convince, I debate to dictate my terms of understanding. There is no other debate for me.

In my early years, I went down the road of trying to prove and convince and found it to be useless. If God desires people to believe, let him convince and prove, I am sure he is far greater at it than me. I dictate the terms of my conversations, and wisdom has dictated to me not to waste my time trying to prove and convince others of my beliefs.

And it matters not to me who understands this.

Peace.

 

[mickiel]

Yes this born of frustration. You have put forth your viewpoint in a DISCUSSION forum. But when your viewpoint is challenged (which is our right as part of a discussion) you refuse to discuss it because we are atheists and therefore not worthy of your attention.

When asked some very simple questions about your view point you refuse to answer them.

When asked to explain your viewpoints in further depth you refuse to.

So when faced with this ignorance, arrogance and intellectual immaturity and with no respite in sight we can only laugh.

If you would like to have your views taken seriously please discuss them.

-Q

The only time I refuse to answer questions, is when they are filtered with disrespect. When have I refused to answer a question outside of that reason? I have been answering question from Atheist on this forum for years. These false accusations are born from frustration.

And one more thing. I am not asking or expecting my views to be taken seriously, how many times must I state that I don't care what others think about my views. I don't care what you think about my views, and I certainly don't care what Atheist, Christians, or anyother human thinks about how I communicate.

Peace.

 

[mickiel]

I have stated many times that one of the reasons I believe in God is Atheist, they prove God to me. The more I communicate with them, the more I see God. You cannot know God, and not know his adversary. Knowing his oppisition, is to begin to know him.

I have dealt with a lot of Women in my lifetime, and I have learned, to get to know them, is to get to know and understand their problems and weaknesses. In order to properly understand the positive, you cannot ignore the negative. You must experience both sides of the coin. Atheist give me a valuable view of unbelief. Of rejection of God. I needed that to understand the beginning of understanding God. Atheist show me where I could be if I didnot believe. I am already messed up as a human being, but at least I can still see God while I am yet in this Darkness.

And I want to go into that.

Peace.

 

[mickiel]

Before I go further into that, let me mention one more thing. The Atheist here have tried to change the meaning of debate. Debate is discussion, in which you question and consider. Its not a prove to me forum or provide evidence to convince, thats not debate. Its what debate is to Atheist, because that chip is on their shoulders. You do not try to control the discussion by rendering it to a show and tell of facts and proof, which are the terms that Atheist try to dictate.

I am fully aware of this, which is why an Atheist will never dictate terms of discussion with me. Never! You can discuss things with an Athiest for hours, but they will turn right around and accuse you of not discussing things with them. Christians do the same thing. This is seductive illusion in the ego, if it is not fed what it wants.

Anyhow, I apoligise for banging hard on the heads of Atheist the last couple of days, I just don't like many of them, and it seeps out sometimes. But I did the banging in restraint, held myself back as much as I could, because I can do far more damage if I so pleased. But I am more attracted to Peace in my older age. Let the Christians fight them, I would rather be left in peace.

Peace.

 

[Tiberius]

I will debate by my own terms, not others. And I have done as such. Atheist demand proof in debate, I am not the one to try and prove the things I believe in debate. So I am not a normal debater, I set my own terms and I follow them. I do not debate to prove or convince, I debate to dictate my terms of understanding. There is no other debate for me.

In my early years, I went down the road of trying to prove and convince and found it to be useless. If God desires people to believe, let him convince and prove, I am sure he is far greater at it than me. I dictate the terms of my conversations, and wisdom has dictated to me not to waste my time trying to prove and convince others of my beliefs.

And it matters not to me who understands this.

Peace.

What you are doing is explaining your position.

Calling it debating does not make it such.

 

[Diederick]

Richard, what are you doing?

Your [Mickiel's] method of 'debating' is stating your [his] opinions regarding a matter, without any backing up of evidence; and just discrediting opposing arguments of other people by stating even more personal opinions of what you [he] are [is] "convinced" of.

Besides just insulting him for his bad English, you are not going to get anywhere with this guy, because of the way he likes to 'debate'. Because there will not be any evidence or any good argument here, it's just what he believes that he bases his entire point on.

 

[richardlowellt]

I will debate by my own terms, not others. And I have done as such. Atheist demand proof in debate, I am not the one to try and prove the things I believe in debate. So I am not a normal debater, I set my own terms and I follow them. I do not debate to prove or convince, I debate to dictate my terms of understanding. There is no other debate for me.

Then like many other issues you remain uneducated about you now have no idea of what the word DEBATE means. It's a formal DISCUSSION on a particular subject, discussion does not mean you simply stating your opinions and then refusing to address opposing views.

.If God desires people to believe, let him convince and prove,

There is no God.

I dictate the terms of my conversations, and wisdom

So far none of us has seen any wisdom, only your opinions, you obviously have no "wisdom" when it comes to evolution. As I have said before, you can certainly disagree with the process of evolution, but before doing that you are required to have knowledge about how evolution operates.

And it matters not to me who understands this.

Yes we are quite aware of that.

 

[mickiel]

The blindness of Atheist proves to me that God will shut people up, for his own purpose, the exageration of Christians proves to me that God will puff people up beyond his purpose. Thats why I would like to know God, he does some strange things. I think it would be quite something to know him. I don't think this about Atheist, from what they display in conversation, I don't think it would be anything to know them. I find them dull, like a blunt knife thats trying to always cut people. A dull blade that has lost the purpose of conversation, thinking its purpose is to cut. Always looking for insults to place on the plate.

And they don't know when to leave certain people alone. But let them keep comming, if that is what they wish.

Peace.

 

[richardlowellt]

The blindness of Atheist proves to me that God will shut people up, for his own purpose

And just how will god "shut" these people up? another global flood perhaps?

, the exageration of Christians proves to me that God will puff people up beyond his purpose.

Not sure what this means, please elaborate.

Thats why I would like to know God, he does some strange things.

Yes he certainly does, lime healing the blind but never amputee's, very strange indeed, almost as though he really doesn't exist.

I think it would be quite something to know him

Why would you want to know a murderer, someone how has committed Genocide, slaughtered innocent babies, throws people who oppose him into lakes of liquid fire, no thanks, this guy is way to messed up for me.


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I don't think this about Atheist, from what they display in conversation, I don't think it would be anything to know them.

If you really listened to them you just might learn something.

 

[mickiel]

I once walked past a tied up dog. It began barking and growling, as spit ran out of his mouth, it began charging and was full of rage. I just kept walking, perhaps its just protecting its territory, its not reacting from hate. When I deal with Atheist, I keep this in mind, because of the simularities I see. They growl and try to bite, as they protect their area. They spit out nonsense and it dribbles over reason.

They are dead man walking.

Peace.

 

[richardlowellt]

I once walked past a tied up dog. It began barking and growling, as spit ran out of his mouth, it began charging and was full of rage. I just kept walking, perhaps its just protecting its territory, its not reacting from hate. When I deal with Atheist, I keep this in mind, because of the simularities I see. They growl and try to bite, as they protect their area. They spit out nonsense and it dribbles over reason.

I once saw a dog that was not tied up but would never walk beyond five feet in any direction, he had been tied up all of his life and when finally untied was so programed to being tied in that five foot circle he couldn't walk beyond it. I reminds me so much of some people I have conversed with on this site, they have been so brainwashed by their religious beliefs that they, like the dog, are incapable of going beyond that rigid mindset that religion has tied them to. No one could coax that dog out of that five foot circle, just as some people will never be coaxed out of their rigid dogmatic mindset. Really sad.

They are dead man walking.

No, we walk in the sunlight of reason, logic and a completely open mind.

 

[mickiel]

I will end my short examination of Atheist and go back to topic at hand. If Atheist are anything, they are a distraction.

Romance is a part of our consciousness. Human consciousness is like a pre-recorded tape, it just plays out as it was prior recorded to. Its a pre-set mode of reality, and we are just existing on those modes as they fire our nervous system during this phenom we know as life. And I have discovered that all prehistoric humans were active living beings, who had blank recordings, simply held no consciousness. It explians everything to me, well at least enough things to fill in some blanks in my understanding.

Human consciousness was created by God, and its a continual thing, like a Spirit. Having no real location in the body, its just there. Not in the head or hands or body cavity, its just everywhere. This type of reality cannot evolve from nothing, and Romance within itself is the same.

And I want to go into that.

Peace.

 

[OGMIOS6666]

Man has different aspects for showing his love to others, his love for his mother will be different to that of his love for his wife, and the love for him towards his children will be different, Men you would be suprised are more caring and sensitive to men, if you only but knew.

 

[Tiberius]

Mickiel, you are doing this in a very strange way...

First, you say that your idea f debate is different, and you won'tgo by the definitions of oters. That's fine, but you're like the guy who goes onto a pet forum and talks about his pet dog. Nevermind that is idea of a pet do is an animal that has featers, sits on a perc and chirps all day. he calls it a dog, and dammit, he's gonna talk about it in the dog section. The others there try to tell him he has a bird, not a dog, but he doesn't care. So I don't care what your definition of debate is, because you made this thread public, and that's what you have to live with. Other members here aren't going to ask the OP in every thread, "excuse me, but how do you define "debate"?" They are going to use the standard definition. If you fail to meet that, then it's your own fault.

Secondly, if you are so irritated y atyheists, wy did you post this thread in a section tat would encourage them to post? If you post a thread in the debate section, don't start acting all irritated that ateists are talking to you. You brought it upon yourself.

So, can you provide objective PROOF that romance illustrates te existance of God? If so, provide it.

 

[mickiel]

Secondly, if you are so irritated y atyheists, wy did you post this thread in a section tat would encourage them to post? If you post a thread in the debate section, don't start acting all irritated that ateists are talking to you. You brought it upon yourself.

So, can you provide objective PROOF that romance illustrates te existance of God? If so, provide it.

Are you trying to limit where I post? I post where I want to, not where you suggest I do. And what has removed my right to be irritated by Atheist? Are Atheist now those who people cannot be irritated at? I don't like the mere thought of not believing in God. I don't like the mere suggestion that Jesus didnot exist. I don't like the bogus teachings of evolution. I don't like the ignorant denial of the findings of Archaeology that support the bibles relevance. Given all this, what, in the name of reason, makes you think I should like an Atheist?

Do you expect me to hug a catus and ignore the pain from getting stuck? Or may I be for real and show my reaction to getting stuck? No, I am going to be for real, my reaction to Atheist, is that I get irritated with them. They are trying to drain the world of God, and I don't like that. I had an Atheist woman the other day ask me for a date. Fine looking woman, great, great body, bueatiful head of hair. She said she was an Atheist, and it turned me off right away, and I told her she is not for me. I don't like Atheist.

Peace.

 

[mickiel]

So, can you provide objective PROOF that romance illustrates te existance of God? If so, provide it.

I am not trying to provide proof to people. Obviously you are complettely blind to me repeatedly telling you this. I am not posting this thread to prove anything. I am not posting this thread to prove anything. I am not posting this thread to prove anything.

I am not expressing my views in order to prove anything. I don't have to prove anything to you. I don't have the power to meet a blind person and give them sight, and I am nobodys fool to even try.

Peace.