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Mickiel's proof of God.

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mickiel

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The causes of Consciousness are multiple in the way that God created it in humans, but when he created Adam and Eve, the first humans with Consciousness, he told them to be fruitful and multiply in Gen. 1:28. This is the birth of Romance in humans, and this Romance created the generate of civilization. And has maintained its populace. This is proof of Gods intentional design to create and reproduce humanity to great numerical extension.

Through Romance, God created the attraction between males and females that would eventually fill this earth to our present population. And eventually be the seed, the design he intends to make humanity his very own children.

And I want to go into that.

Peace.
 

The Neo Nerd

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I would argue that attraction between a male and female is nothing more than chemical intercourse.

When human beings are attracted to each other they send out chemicals called pheromones. The other person will unconsciously smell these pheromones and unconsciously determine whether or not this person will be an ideal mate. This process is completely separate from looks which is why you will see some pretty average looking people partnered with a really good looking person.

After this suitability has been established then comes the subtle and completely unconscious body language cues, i wont go into all of these at the moment, however once the attraction gets deeper both parties will start to mirror each others body language. It can be fascinating to watch a new couples body language even when they aren't canoodling for those who know what they are looking for these can be quite obvious.

Now as romance is an internal process and therefore the process is unknowable i put forward this as my own personal theory. Eric Berne came up with a behavioural model called 'Transactional Analysis' as part of this model he came up with concept of 'strokes'. Strokes are the recognition, attention or responsiveness that one person gives another. I believe that romance and all the attendant behaviour associated with it is just a process of stroking each other so as to deepen the acceptanve and rapport between two people.

What does everyone think of this?

-Q
 

mickiel

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Romance is a planned behavior by God, its different in humans than it is in animals mating. Humans are conscious about their mating behavior, can reminisce about it in the past and imagine it in the future, we can fantasize about our sexual life, it is impossible for animals to do any of these. This is evidence of design from God. Human sexual behavior is evidence of God. Even though we pervert our behavior, bestiality, homosexuality, masturbation, adultry, once we became conscious as humans, we could soon fantasize about sex.

In the tracking of ancient mentalities as we search our ancestors behavior to help understand ours, sexual Romance is evident all in our history. And its in all cultures; Chinese, Greece, Egyptian, you name the culture, in any age, Romance was there. It has been just as consistant as consciousness.

Consciousness can be defined using Romance; when you are aware of a past or future effect of an emotion, you are conscious.

And I want to go further into that.

Peace.
 

Tiberius

Well-Known Member
Are you trying to limit where I post? I post where I want to, not where you suggest I do. And what has removed my right to be irritated by Atheist? Are Atheist now those who people cannot be irritated at?

And the guy with the feathered, chirping creature who calls it a dog and posts in the dog forum says, "Are you trying to limit where I post? I post where I want to, not where you suggest I do. And what has removed my right to be irritated by those little yappy furry things? Are those little yappy furry things now those who people cannot be irritated at?"

It's still dumb.

I don't like the mere thought of not believing in God.

And I don't like the thought of eating oysters. But I don't get snippy with those who do.

I don't like the mere suggestion that Jesus didnot exist.

As above.

I don't like the bogus teachings of evolution.

Then start a thread and you can tell me exactly what there is which shows that evolution is bogus. And I will show you where you are wrong.

See that? That is how confident I am. I am sure that any so-called "evidence" you have against evolution is wrong - and I don't even know what your "evidence" is.

I don't like the ignorant denial of the findings of Archaeology that support the bibles relevance.

So you like science when it supports what you think, but you don't like it when it disagrees with what you think? Isn't that hypocritical?

Given all this, what, in the name of reason, makes you think I should like an Atheist?

If you insist on jusdging people based on just one part of what makes up their personality, then I don't particularly want you to like me. A person who judges people like that is kinda a ********.

Do you expect me to hug a catus and ignore the pain from getting stuck? Or may I be for real and show my reaction to getting stuck? No, I am going to be for real, my reaction to Atheist, is that I get irritated with them.

Irritated with atheists or irritated with atheism?

They are trying to drain the world of God, and I don't like that.

Actually, most atheists are content to live and let live. I've yet to meet an atheist who is actively rying to eliminate religion. However, if you know of such an atheist, I'd like to know.

I had an Atheist woman the other day ask me for a date. Fine looking woman, great, great body, bueatiful head of hair. She said she was an Atheist, and it turned me off right away, and I told her she is not for me. I don't like Atheist.

Try doing that, but subsituting the reason for turning her down for "being black". That's racism, isn't it? And yet it's so acceptable to practice discrimination like that when it comes to atheists.

I am not trying to provide proof to people. Obviously you are complettely blind to me repeatedly telling you this. I am not posting this thread to prove anything. I am not posting this thread to prove anything. I am not posting this thread to prove anything.

I am not expressing my views in order to prove anything. I don't have to prove anything to you. I don't have the power to meet a blind person and give them sight, and I am nobodys fool to even try.

You titled this thread "Romance, another proof of God."

You are the one who said you had PROOF. Proof, by definition, is objective. If it is not objective, it is not proof.

If you can demonstrate that romance objectively proves God, present it.

If you cannot, then admit that romance does not prove God (regardless of how convincing you find it).


You discriminate against atheists, you judge people based on one small part of what makes them who they are, and you make demonstratable false claims.

I do not see that you practice peace. Maybe towards people who remind you of yourself, but towards anyone who has different viewpoints, I see no peace.
 
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mickiel

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If you insist on jusdging people based on just one part of what makes up their personality, then I don't particularly want you to like me. A person who judges people like that is kinda a ********.


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Either you apoligise for this, or our conversations are ended. You cannot remove my freedom to dislike Atheist. I do not seperate Atheist, from Atheism.

Peace.
 

The Neo Nerd

Well-Known Member
Either you apoligise for this, or our conversations are ended. You cannot remove my freedom to dislike Atheist. I do not seperate Atheist, from Atheism.

Peace.

Tiberius,

Dont apologise, he can't take away a conversation from you that he isn't having.
 

richardlowellt

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And I have discovered that all prehistoric humans were active living beings, who had blank recordings, simply held no consciousness.
And just were did you discover this? In what book or article is this discovery found? I know you just didn't make this up, so somewhere there must be a source explaining this discovery, so either post where this discovery is found, or simply tell us you just made this up.






Human consciousness was created by God,
Yes I'm sure you believe this, but it is not FACT, simply say, "I believe consciousness was created by god" it read much better that way, thanks.


and its a continual thing, like a Spirit
How do you define spirit?
 

richardlowellt

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I don't like the mere thought of not believing in God
And I don't like the mere thought of the existence of a god, how is your dislike more valid than my dislike?


. I don't like the bogus teachings of evolution
Thats because you have not the slightest clue as to how evolution operates, we have been through this before, and you still remain uneducated on the subject, willful ignorance is never a good trait.



. I don't like the ignorant denial of the findings of Archaeology that support the bibles relevance.
Now I and anyone else interested, will ask what Archaeology findings are supported by the bible?





They are trying to drain the world of God, and I don't like that.
There is no god.


I had an Atheist woman the other day ask me for a date. Fine looking woman, great, great body, bueatiful head of hair. She said she was an Atheist, and it turned me off right away, and I told her she is not for me. I don't like Atheist.
Then as has been pointed out to you, you are a form of racist.
 

richardlowellt

Well-Known Member
I am not trying to provide proof to people. Obviously you are complettely blind to me repeatedly telling you this. I am not posting this thread to prove anything. I am not posting this thread to prove anything. I am not posting this thread to prove anything.
Then why are you here, why are you here, why are you here? BTW it's spelled COMPLETELY, your welcome.

I am not expressing my views in order to prove anything. I don't have to prove anything to you
Your original post proclaimed that you had PROOF, that romance is PROOF of god, so prove it or go away!



I don't have the power to meet a blind person and give them sight, and I am nobodys fool to even try.
Funny Jesus met a blind person and gave he sight, I often wonder why he just didn't cure all blindness with a sweep of his mighty hand, I wonder how the other blind men felt that this miracle worker showed favoritism----Hummm, maybe it's just a childish story after all.
 

richardlowellt

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QUOTE=mickiel;1726039]Either you apoligise for this, or our conversations are ended. You cannot remove my freedom to dislike Atheist. I do not seperate Atheist, from Atheism.
Yeah, he has asked for apologies from me also, he hates being disagreed with, and considers any opposition to his views no matter how uneducated or ridiculous, and an insult, pretty soon he'll have no one to talk to.


[/QUOTE]I to don't think you believe in Peace, you dislike people because of their views, thats one of the ways wars are started, not much "peace" there.
 

richardlowellt

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. I had an Atheist woman the other day ask me for a date. Fine looking woman, great, great body, bueatiful head of hair. She said she was an Atheist, and it turned me off right away, and I told her she is not for me. I don't like Atheist.
I'll bet it was right at that moment that she thanked here lucky stars that you turned her down.
 

mickiel

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Tiberius,

Dont apologise, he can't take away a conversation from you that he isn't having.


Since you have interfeared and suggested that someone who insulted me not apologise to me, I will no longer respond to you either. You Atheist are rude conversationist, just another reason I don't like you.

Good then, none of you can any longer accuse me of ignoring you, each of you have given me reason to continue in Peace without having to answer your questions. It took a little longer than I thought, but I knew it would come to this anyway. No website should expect a person to respond to insults.

Thats another thing about you Atheist, you don't have enough manners to treat conversations with respect. Your just rude.

Peace.
 

The Neo Nerd

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Since you have interfeared and suggested that someone who insulted me not apologise to me, I will no longer respond to you either. You Atheist are rude conversationist, just another reason I don't like you.

Good then, none of you can any longer accuse me of ignoring you, each of you have given me reason to continue in Peace without having to answer your questions. It took a little longer than I thought, but I knew it would come to this anyway. No website should expect a person to respond to insults.

Thats another thing about you Atheist, you don't have enough manners to treat conversations with respect. Your just rude.

Peace.

That's fine, im still going to post in this thread though.

-Q
 

s3v3n

Seeker of perspective
Since you have interfeared and suggested that someone who insulted me not apologise to me, I will no longer respond to you either. You Atheist are rude conversationist, just another reason I don't like you.

Good then, none of you can any longer accuse me of ignoring you, each of you have given me reason to continue in Peace without having to answer your questions. It took a little longer than I thought, but I knew it would come to this anyway. No website should expect a person to respond to insults.

Thats another thing about you Atheist, you don't have enough manners to treat conversations with respect. Your just rude.

Peace.

I'm not an athiest, and yes I took the time to read how we got here. But you're something...."Atheist are rude conversationist<sp not mine>, just another reason I don't like you".....so you decided long ago that all those who believe not in your god are rude, and are just waiting for a reason to pounce and say so? "It took a little longer than I though, but I knew it would come to this anyway"....Your arrogance and assumption that all people of any group or belief will eventually offend and do you harm (real or imagined) is beyond intolerance, it's outright seperatism. If you used the same analogy for say people of color, caucasians, woman, and so on, you'd be railroaded, but since it's just some people who don't agree with you it's perfectly okay. How about protestants? Or if that's what you claim maybe some Catholics or Mormans? Wanna line a few of them up somewhere....? I never use this word, never...but you walk a very thin line from fascism, maybe no line at all.....

I never get offended, especially over beliefs, but you are offensive. That was offensive, not just to athiest but to anyone who might dare disagree with you.

Sadly enough, your original point had merit, I might not have agreed with it all but there was merit, but whatever you might have had to express was destroyed in bigotry and loathing....someone said you are a kind of racist, which isn't exactly true, you are however a facist, and a bigot and so much hatred to spread around a world that needs so little.


S3V3N
 

Venatoris

Active Member
Damn, I'm glad I read the last few pages first. I would have been seriously angry if I read 56 pages leading up to this. It's a shame that this thread had a good topic for debate and devolved into this pointless bickering but since I'm here I might as well contribute something.

Mickiel has been described as a racist,bigot,fascist. I like these words and would like to add ethnocentric to the list. I would also like to call him a 'tool' but I'm better than that.

Mick, think before you post and for the love of god get a dictionary(interfearing? IT'S UNDERLINED!!). Look up 'plural' while you have it handy. When you want to refer to the group, the word is atheists not atheist. Straighten your panties and proof-read your comments before you click reply. Typo's are forgivable only to a certain degree. Be ignorant all you want but at least be literate.

Oh, I almost forgot to thank you. After reading a few of your posts I now have "dueling banjo's" stuck in my head.

To everyone else- I generally don't like to criticize or rant but... Damn!:facepalm:
 

mickiel

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You know I am surprised, its as if Atheist think I care about the way they think about me. I couldcareless how an Atheist thinks about me. But to clear the air, I feel the same way about Christians and prejudice people also, I don't care what they think about me, and I don't like them either. I don't like drug addicts, I don't like mean selfish women, I don't like child pedaphiles, I don't like employers who do not pay me what I am worth. I don't like white people who think they are superior to blacks. I didnot like Hitler, I didnot like Nixon,I didnot like Sadaam Hussein, and I do not like Rush Limbrauh. I really do not like Shaun Hannity, and I don't like Cheesecake.

And you know what, I don't care who gets upset over the things I do not Like. I don't like people who do not like God. And let me tell you somethingelse, this is one of the reasons I cannot be A Christian. Its not in me to just Love everybody, and I don't Love everybody.

This is one reason I know I need God in my Life. Ain't no Atheist gone help me Love everybody.

Peace.
 

mickiel

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And let me say somethingelse, I know how I am, I know I need help, serious help, THATS what attracts me to God! I know he, and he ALONE can help me, and I long for that help, because I know I need it. I want to be able to Love everyone, but I do not. Life has not been fair to me, it has not been peachs and cream, I KNOW I am a sinner in need of help. And I have not progressed beyond that point.

And I refuse to act as if I have.

Peace.
 

mickiel

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Oh I tell you I am sad at reading these comments from the Atheist concerning me. But I am also touched, I will go beyond whats in my heart and extend the olive branch against my better judgement, and forgive the insults hurled at me by each Atheist, and will reopen any dialog they wish to continue. I do this , not because I am good, I am not good, I will just do it to show my desire for Peace. Forget the insults, and start from here.

But I will endure no more insults, and will give none myself.

Peace then, Mickiel.
 

The Neo Nerd

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Does anyone want to discuss this topic because i really would.

And Mick i will be ignoring anything you say as you deem it appropriate to ignore me and that my friend is a precedent.

-Q
 
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