Migrants with child brides

[England my lionheart]

Or let the girl and her child in but not the pedo husband. I'm not without my kindness and sympathy.

I'll go with that.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

Easy answer is to not let them in.

Which means she will continue to suffer what we would constitute as statutory rape, but it's not inside our borders, so not our problem?
[edit] Sorry, that sounds more judgey that I meant it to...I think this issue is a little tricky, actually.[/edit]

 

[England my lionheart]

Which means she will continue to suffer what we would constitute as statutory rape, but it's not inside our borders, so not our problem?
[edit] Sorry, that sounds more judgey that I meant it to...I think this issue is a little tricky, actually.[/edit]

What you say is unfortunately true,in a way by doing so we're just washing our hands of it, it's a tricky situation.

 

[oldbadger]

Interesting take.
I understand (and agree) about the issues of separating a 14 year old from her child.

You do, I don't.
Only children in some clear condition of danger should be taken in to care. imo.
I already read your comment on the same post, above, yeah?
EDIT: Sorry........ the post I read wasn't yours. I'm stupid today. (....just today, right?)

How do you rationalise leaving the 14 year old with her husband (assuming the husband is substantially older...let's say in his 30's for the sake of argument)?

Oh no! You might be able to compare young husbands against old where you are, but as far as the UK is concerned a husband's age is of no account in all this. For instance, one strong rationale is our Equality Act 2010 which forbids prejudice of any kind over age.
So if a 14yr old is married legally to a man, his age is of no concern at all. Or did you want to draw a line through an age, a month before having one response, a month after having another response? Where's the rationale in that?

We should not turn away confirmed asylum seekers because they are married young.......

BTW, I'm 19.5 years older than my wife. Would you make judgement about it?

 

[oldbadger]

What you say is unfortunately true,in a way by doing so we're just washing our hands of it, it's a tricky situation.

I think that we gotta protect asylum seekers even if their marriages don't align with out legislation. I wonder if foreign Gays can marry younger than in the UK, and if so, what if they sought asylum here?

It's our duty to protect Asylum seekers, I reckon, leaving their marriages alone.

 

[England my lionheart]

I think that we gotta protect asylum seekers even if their marriages don't align with out legislation. I wonder if foreign Gays can marry younger than in the UK, and if so, what if they sought asylum here?

It's our duty to protect Asylum seekers, I reckon, leaving their marriages alone.

Paedophilia is a crime, you can't have separate laws Imo,.

 

[Anthem]

Paedophilia is a crime, you can't have separate laws Imo,.

This calls for a new thread, but who's brave enough to do it, who? Who??

 

[oldbadger]

Islamic marriage should be possible.

Yes........ how obscene....​

Yes, interfering with marriage sure is obscene.
Interfering with a 14/15yr olds children is worse than obscene, it's outrageous.

 

[Anthem]

Yes, interfering with marriage sure is obscene.
Interfering with a 14/15yr olds children is worse than obscene, it's outrageous.

Are you being sarcastic?

They're not all 14 or 15.

Even a 14-year-old needs to be 16 one day, unless...

 

[oldbadger]

Paedophilia is a crime, you can't have separate laws Imo,.

Ah........ but is it? In an Asylum containment centre, is it?
Look, I know snuff all about this, but do you know about the condition of Bonded Stores? These areas are not classed as being within our country (technically) and they can be situated inland. Equally, Asylum Centres could possibly be classed as international areas......... it might even be the way that we handle this kind of thing here. I need to go looking, later on..,...

 

[oldbadger]

Are you being sarcastic?

They're not all 14 or 15.

Even a 14-year-old needs to be 16 one day, unless...

No...... just take what I wrote as my strong opinion.

 

[oldbadger]

They're not all 14 or 15.

If they're over 15yrs, then no problem, ok?

Even a 14-year-old needs to be 16 one day, unless...

Well we're discussing asylum seekers who are married and under 16yrs. Or at least, I am.

 

[England my lionheart]

Ah........ but is it? In an Asylum containment centre, is it?
Look, I know snuff all about this, but do you know about the condition of Bonded Stores? These areas are not classed as being within our country (technically) and they can be situated inland. Equally, Asylum Centres could possibly be classed as international areas......... it might even be the way that we handle this kind of thing here. I need to go looking, later on..,...

That's an interesting point, I'll be interested with what you come up with.

 

[stvdv]

"Should a 14-year-old married girl who migrates to Europe be viewed as a child - or a spouse?

The issue has put European governments in a spin: forcing a policy U-turn in Denmark, new legislation in the Netherlands and an agonised debate in Germany."
Migrant child brides put Europe in a spin

So, should nations accept and permit migrants to continue having sexual relations with minors, when it is against the law to do so?

Koran verse 5:51 gives the solution:
O you who have believed, do not take the Jews and the Christians as allies. They are [in fact] allies of one another. And whoever is an ally to them among you - then indeed, he is [one] of them. Indeed, Allah guides not the wrongdoing people.[allies = protectors]
Coming to a non-Muslim country refugees take them as ally, they are one of them; so they follow the law of that country. Practical verse nowadays

 

[YmirGF]

this is a rather sticky problem. Many of these child brides do not want to be separated from their husbands. It also appears, at least in the examples sited, that these are not creepy old men, but men in their twenties generally. What do you do it the bride has had children and she thinks of all of them as a family? It is not a problem that I would want to try to solve.

I'd be inclined to refuse them entry and pass the problem to someone else.

 

[Spiderman]

Plus, Europeans are very evil. Who in their right mind would want to live with them?

 

[Anthem]

Koran verse 5:51 gives the solution:
O you who have believed, do not take the Jews and the Christians as allies. They are [in fact] allies of one another. And whoever is an ally to them among you - then indeed, he is [one] of them. Indeed, Allah guides not the wrongdoing people.[allies = protectors]
Coming to a non-Muslim country refugees take them as ally, they are one of them; so they follow the law of that country. Practical verse nowadays

Here you are with your bs again.

Spreading misinformation with an air innocence..

 

[Spiderman]

Plus, Europeans are very evil. Who in their right mind would want to live with them?

I'm joking obviously

 

[Spiderman]

Here you are with your bs again.

Spreading misinformation with an air innocence..

Which part is BS? The Quran has more gruesome hateful versus than that.

 

[England my lionheart]

That's an interesting point, I'll be interested with what you come up with.

Just to add that if they are in this actual country then the law must be enforced but consult the girl first to see if its a forced marriage but otherwise she and the children if any should live apart from the husband until she is old enough.

This is a glaring example of "multiculturalism" not working, we even have police dedicated to forced marriages here, bringing these backward cultures here and then appeasing them would set us hundreds of years back in the past.