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Misquote in the Gospel

savagewind

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I tell all-- the teachings of Jesus prove who is who. Few know what he taught--no Trinitarian does. Every time I show them what Jesus actually taught--they reject those teachings even though they all are in their bibles as well.
True. Everyone rejects the fact that Jesus never commanded the making of disciples to fulfill what is written, the whole world in satan lies.
 

savagewind

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Premium Member
Jesus promised to appoint his faithful and discreet .
Can I read? LOL It is written as a question. A question is not a promise! Matthew 24:45
You don't even have a shred of evidence that Matthew 24:45 isn't just another parable.
 

savagewind

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Then why are trinity teachers lying and telling others--you are saved or born again--they cannot read anyones true heart--they have NEVER seen a single name written in Gods book of life--have 0 clue WHO can endure until their end-Matt 10:22)-- yet keep lying to their flocks. then ask for the tithe.
You speak the truth here! Good for you! Yes, nobody can say who will endure to the end, but you are putting all your trust in that the Jehovah's Witnesses who are faithful to the Jehovah's Witnesses will endure to the end. I am sure it is why you go door to door!
 

kjw47

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I didn't say or ask if could be "undone" kjw. Why can't you stay on point?

You stated repentance = correction remember?

Also, do you remember me pointing this out to you in my last post? I specifically asked if you could remember what you told me before..."repentance = correction"! There was nothing about "undone".

I didn't ask if the Nazis had "undone" the murder of 6 million Jews by turning off the gas. I asked if the Nazis had "repented" by turning off the gas.

By your definition, any Nazis that had shot a Jew can "repent" by merely "correcting" his behavior. You stated "correction" was all that was needed. So if a Nazi "corrects" his behavior by no longer shooting Jews, he has, by your Organization's twisted doctrine, "repented".



That kjw, is an incredibly bigoted statement. It was the Nazis under Hitler, not Catholics under the Pope, that attacked Poland to start World War 2. Also, you seem to ignore the approximately 15-20,000 Jehovah Witnesses who decided they were better off staying out of the camps.

Look, I'll make this easy for you. We're going to take an exercise in critical thinking, okay? Let's review your statement again because I was told the exact same thing by another bigoted religious Organization, the Black Muslims, some 40 years ago. Only they had a slightly different slant on things:

Catholicism Caucasians backed Hitler to the hilt--voted him into power, then killed the members of their own religion race in every Christian land Hitler attacked.
See how easy bigotry is kjw?

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I simply substituted "Christians" with "Caucasians"! Believe me, there are plenty of people who fell for this argument, hook, line and sinker. The problems of the world weren't caused by "Christendom" but by the "white devils" who warred, colonized and factionalized everything else. They told me whites backed Hitler "100%", just like you told me Catholics did earlier.

Do you think the Black Muslims had a valid argument? Or do you feel a sudden sense of outrage or unease when you're lumped into the same deleterious pot?

Perhaps you can explain to us why, using clear terms and rationale, the Black Muslims were wrong, and also, on what basis we should find your Organization's anti-Christian bigotry more "truthful" and appealing. :rolleyes:


The real teachers of Jesus would--NEVER-- allow the followers to stand on both sides blowing each others heads off--the world surely could never see--love amongst themselves out of them.

Every race does every sin--none are excluded.
I seriously doubt 6 million dead could ever be forgiven by God. They had no right. skin color has 0 to do with it--God created one human family. the bigoted hearts keep bringing up skin color on matters. The worlds hearts--thrive on it.
 

savagewind

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Ask a question, I will answer for free.
Saying that you WILL answer puts you under the obligation to answer. If you do not answer me everyone reading the this (the three or possibly four) will realize that you just might be a liar.

How do you know that you are right and that I am wrong?
 

savagewind

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Premium Member
My question is a Bible question @kjw. You DID say you would answer me.

The governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses search the scriptures to reason on them.

Why don't they hear from Jesus?

Does the fact that they don't hear from the risen Jesus Christ make it also true that I don't hear from the risen Christ?
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
disagreement without proof = 0
I can prove Jesus teachings back the JW teachers out of trinity translations.
Hmmm... you made statements without proof. Why can you do it but I can't?
 

omega2xx

Well-Known Member
Exactly right--that is why th




that is why the NWT corrected all the errors translated in by Catholicism to fit false council teachings.

The did a better j ob but you still have a faulty translation.

The Catholics did not translate any of the good translations of today/
 

kjw47

Well-Known Member
Saying that you WILL answer puts you under the obligation to answer. If you do not answer me everyone reading the this (the three or possibly four) will realize that you just might be a liar.

How do you know that you are right and that I am wrong?


The teachings of Jesus is the answer.
 

Oeste

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The real teachers of Jesus would--NEVER-- allow the followers to stand on both sides blowing each others heads off--the world surely could never see--love amongst themselves out of them.

So if I see Jews being escorted to a gas chamber I should do nothing but show love for what is taking place? Or is it better if keep a straight face and go back to reading my paper?

It seems to me that you're saying the Germans showed love to the world by turning a blind eye and doing nothing to stop the Nazi executions.

Every race does every sin--none are excluded.

We're doing some critical thinking here, remember? Let's look at it again:

Every race religion does every sin--none are excluded.

Is this correct, or is one religion excluded? And if you can brush off the sins of one religion, why can't the Black Muslims brush off the sins of one race?

I seriously doubt 6 million dead could ever be forgiven by God.

So you no longer allow Germans into your congregation?

They had no right. skin color has 0 to do with it

But the Black Muslims assured me that skin color had everything to do with it, and as exhibit A they offered World War 2, exhibit B was World War 1, exhibit C was the American Indian genocide, Exhibit D was Afro-Asian colonization, slavery and so on. Why is blaming it on skin color bigoted but blaming it on Catholics "truth"? Shouldn't it be the other way around, or are both teachings equally bigoted?


--God created one human family. the bigoted hearts keep bringing up skin color on matters. The worlds hearts--thrive on it.

Let's go back to our critical thinking exercise and your former comment to KenS about "disagreement without proof = 0":

--God created one human family. the bigoted hearts keep bringing up skin color religion on matters. The worlds hearts--thrive on it.

See how easy that is?

Look, the Black Muslims have just left my house after presenting "Mohammed Speaks". They've assured me the world is a mess because of skin color, and they point to all the wars. Then you just pull up with the latest issue of the Watchtower. You've just assured me it's due to the Catholic religion, and you point to the exact same wars.

Why is your truth any less bigoted from theirs? And what happens when my neighbor reads your literature and concludes you were both half right and it was really white Catholics who messed up everything? Why isn't his new "truth" even more believable than yours?

I'm sure you have plenty of proof that shows being white, European or German had nothing to do with the war, but being Catholic surely did. I'm just waiting for you to present it.
 

kjw47

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The did a better j ob but you still have a faulty translation.

The Catholics did not translate any of the good translations of today/


By the time any one else translated all originals were gone--Catholicism translating remained and Hebrew translating which contradicts trinity translations.. all of them are the works of Catholicism translating.--1000 years after the councils were held they finally allowed translating by others. They burned their own members alive if they tried to translate prior to that.
 
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