Missouri Republicans Introduce Bills to Charge Women Who Receive Abortions With Murder

[Clizby Wampuscat]

It appears that you argue that hiring a contract killer
is OK, but only in the case of mothers hiring one to
kill the fetus.
Why make the distinction between a fetus & an adult?
Is the fetus less entitled to the right to life?

No, mothers having an abortion are not doing that because they want to murder a human life, most don't think it is a life.

Also, it is a practical matter. I want most abortions to stop, that is the goal. If we start putting mothers in jail that will turn people away from that goal in my opinion. You can have the same effect by charging the providers.

 

[Estro Felino]

No, mothers having an abortion are not doing that because they want to murder a human life, most don't think it is a life.

Also, it is a practical matter. I want most abortions to stop, that is the goal. If we start putting mothers in jail that will turn people away from that goal in my opinion. You can have the same effect by charging the providers.

It costs up to 1500 dollars, right?
It's incredible how certain women refuse to use cheap contraceptives and are willing to spend that kind of money just like that.

 

[The Hammer]

It costs up to 1500 dollars, right?
It's incredible how certain women refuse to use cheap contraceptives and are willing to spend that kind of money just like that.

Most no one uses abortion as a form of birth control. Well maybe Italians do.

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

It costs up to 1500 dollars, right?
It's incredible how certain women refuse to use cheap contraceptives and are willing to spend that kind of money just like that.

I don't know how much an abortion costs. Probably depends on your insurance.

 

[sun rise]

Hey if it's that bad then the Democrats should have no problem winning the next election! I'm sure it will be a landslide.

It's worked so far in many places. There's no reason that it won't happen again. I expect the gender difference to be even bigger next year.

 

[Lyndon]

It costs up to 1500 dollars, right?
It's incredible how certain women refuse to use cheap contraceptives and are willing to spend that kind of money just like that.

what kind of contraceptive do you use??

 

[sun rise]

I don't know how much an abortion costs. Probably depends on your insurance.

Chemical abortions are pretty cheap AFAIK

 

[sun rise]

Chemical abortions are pretty cheap AFAIK

I looked it up How much does the abortion pill cost? $580-800.

 

[Estro Felino]

what kind of contraceptive do you use??

As far as I know, the most effective oral contraceptive which is a German pharmaceutical company costs not more than 20 euro a box. A box lasts one month, because it's on the basis of the menstrual cycle.

But now they are free here: Italy makes birth control pills free despite birth rate drop

 

[The Hammer]

It costs up to 1500 dollars, right?
It's incredible how certain women refuse to use cheap contraceptives and are willing to spend that kind of money just like that.

"About Half of U.S. Abortion Patients Report Using Contraception in the Month They Became Pregnant"

What the data says about abortion in the U.S.

The U.S. abortion rate has generally declined since the 1980s, but there have been slight upticks in the late 2010s and early 2020s.

www.pewresearch.org

 

[Estro Felino]

"About Half of U.S. Abortion Patients Report Using Contraception in the Month They Became Pregnant"

What the data says about abortion in the U.S.

The U.S. abortion rate has generally declined since the 1980s, but there have been slight upticks in the late 2010s and early 2020s.

www.pewresearch.org

It means American contraceptives don't work.

 

[Revoltingest]

No, mothers having an abortion are not doing that because they want to murder a human life, most don't think it is a life.

Does what they think matter if it's murder?

Also, it is a practical matter. I want most abortions to stop, that is the goal. If we start putting mothers in jail that will turn people away from that goal in my opinion. You can have the same effect by charging the providers.

Is it murder or not?

 

[The Hammer]

It means American contraceptives don't work.

Uhmm... Sure. That's the conclusion we draw here *eyeroll*

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

Does what they think matter if it's murder?

Sure, it matters with different murder charges. Charges for killing human life depends on how it is taken and the motivation behind the killing.

Is it murder or not?

It is taking human life, so yeah it is murder. I have said I would punish the providers for murder and explained already why I would do this instead of the mother.

 

[Estro Felino]

Is it murder or not?

Gianna Jessen survived a saline abortion. Seventh month of pregnancy.
Is that attempted murder or not?

Gianna Jessen - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Estro Felino]

Sure, it matters with different murder charges. Charges for killing human life depends on how it is taken and the motivation behind the killing.

For a certain political party not even late term abortions are murder.
And I am speaking sixth-seventh month.
So it's like talking to a brick wall.
They will plead the fifth.

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

For a certain political party not even late term abortions are murder.
And I am speaking sixth-seventh month.
So it's like talking to a brick wall.
They will plead the fifth.

Yeah I find that sickening.

 

[Orbit]

I don't think that all women have the same rights to abortion.

There are women who were raped or that they have risky pregnancy. They have a sacred right to abortion.

But those women who are pregnant because they engaged in unprotected sex for months, have not the same right to abortion.
They are irresponsible and should change their lifestyle. By using contraceptives.

And by the way, prostitutes tend to be much more responsible and intellectually mature than monogamous married women.
Because prostitutes use contraceptives and don't get pregnant, expect rare cases.
Once a prostitute was interviewed on TV. She said she has never had abortions.

You have no basis to know how most U.S. women become pregnant as regards birth control (which does have a failure rate). Also, medically necessary abortions are required for women who meant to get pregnant, as it is the only treatment for ectopic pregnancy, incomplete miscarriage, and fetal abnormalities.

Your comments about sex workers need a source/citation, otherwise that is just your wild speculation.

 

[The Hammer]

Your comments about sex workers need a source/citation, otherwise that is just your wild speculation.

She's good at that.

 

[McBell]

What does that have to do with abortion?

Seems pretty obvious to me that if a woman who has an abortion can be charged with murder, then the death penalty is an option as "punishment" for her crime