Missouri Republicans Introduce Bills to Charge Women Who Receive Abortions With Murder

[Heyo]

No, but like I posted above. What is the goal? To put mothers in prison or to stop abortions? If you charge the providers with murder it has the same effect, to stop abortions.

Do you know what statistically is one of the best measures to stop abortions? Making/keeping them legal.
Where abortions are legal, the rate of abortions is lower than where they are criminalised. That holds true for countries as well as for US states.
(It may not have a direct correlation as legal abortions are also correlated with cheap and easy access to contraception and comprehensive sex ed.)

 

[Estro Felino]

Your comments about sex workers need a source/citation, otherwise that is just your wild speculation.

In my country prostitution is legal. And a prostitute was interviewed once on TV saying that she has never had abortions.
But considering that she must have had sex with hundreds or thousands of men...

 

[Estro Felino]

Do you know what statistically is one of the best measures to stop abortions? Making/keeping them legal.
Where abortions are legal, the rate of abortions is lower than where they are criminalised. That holds true for countries as well as for US states.
(It may not have a direct correlation as legal abortions are also correlated with cheap and easy access to contraception and comprehensive sex ed.)

Unwanted pregnancies should be impossible in first world countries where the available contraception methods are countless.

 

[crossfire]

Unwanted pregnancies should be impossible in first world countries where the available contraception methods are countless.

Unfortunately, no contraception is 100% effective, and the side effects get worse (and more dangerous) as you age. Even tubal ligation is not 100% effective (sometimes the fallopian tubes grow back!) Vasectomies are much more effective at birth control than tubal ligations, with much fewer side effects. The only thing more effective than a vasectomy is a hysterectomy.

 

[Heyo]

Unwanted pregnancies should be impossible in first world countries where the available contraception methods are countless.

Countless but not 100% effective. Even the most effective (female oral and subcutaneous hormone control) doesn't exceed 99%. I.e. of 100 sexually active women one gets pregnant over one year.

 

[Heyo]

Unfortunately, no contraception is 100% effective, and the side effects get worse (and more dangerous) as you age. Even tubal ligation is not 100% effective (sometimes the fallopian tubes grow back!)

Beat me to it. Tubal ligation is more effective than oral contraception but I wouldn't call sterilisation "contraception". I was thinking of methods that can simply be ended.

 

[Estro Felino]

Countless but not 100% effective. Even the most effective (female oral and subcutaneous hormone control) doesn't exceed 99%. I.e. of 100 sexually active women one gets pregnant over one year.

The most effective oral contraceptive (and the most prescribed in Europe) is of that German pharmaceutical company.
It's impossible get pregnant. The two artificial hormones, taken regularly, block ovulation.
With no ovulation it is scientifically impossible to get pregnant.

I do know women who have slept with countless men in their life. And never had abortions.
The pill does work. I am sorry.

If it doesn't work, it deals with an ineffective brand, or with lack of regularity (in the administration).

 

[crossfire]

Countless but not 100% effective. Even the most effective (female oral and subcutaneous hormone control) doesn't exceed 99%. I.e. of 100 sexually active women one gets pregnant over one year.

And multiply that over the several years of one's fertility.

 

[crossfire]

The most effective oral contraceptive (and the most prescribed in Europe) is of that German pharmaceutical company.
It's impossible get pregnant. The two artificial hormones, taken regularly, block ovulation.
With no ovulation it is scientifically impossible to get pregnant.

I do know women who have slept with countless men in their life. And never had abortions.
The pill does work. I am sorry.

If it doesn't work, it deals with an ineffective brand, or with lack of regularity (in the administration).

They don't always work at blocking ovulation. Even the implants don't always work.

 

[Estro Felino]

Unfortunately, no contraception is 100% effective, and the side effects get worse (and more dangerous) as you age.

I know...morning nausea, migraine, inappetence, fatigue.
I do take that too.
It's the price I pay.

Why should I be the only one to pay it?

 

[Estro Felino]

They don't always work at blocking ovulation. Even the implants don't always work.

American pharmaceuticals are different. Unfortunately.

 

[crossfire]

I know...morning nausea, migraine, inappetence, fatigue.
I do take that too.
It's the price I pay.

Why should I be the only one to pay it?

Strokes are a major, life-threatening side effect for older women who take hormonal contraception. It's a real risk.

 

[Estro Felino]

Strokes are a major, life-threatening side effect for older women who take hormonal contraception. It's a real risk.

Is abortion better?
Sacrificing the life of a healthy baby is better?

A woman decides to have unprotected sex and having fun in a very irresponsible way...and then she sacrifices her own baby at the altar of lust and lasciviousness.

 

[fantome profane]

The most effective oral contraceptive (and the most prescribed in Europe) is of that German pharmaceutical company.
It's impossible get pregnant.

If you have that I recommend you read the package. Read the small print, I will bet you will see a disclaimer.

 

[Estro Felino]

If you have that I recommend you read the package. Read the small print, I will bet you will see a disclaimer.

I don't need to read the leaflet.
Side effects do arrive. Nausea, migraine, inappetence.

 

[fantome profane]

I don't need to read

Famous last words

 

[Heyo]

The most effective oral contraceptive (and the most prescribed in Europe) is of that German pharmaceutical company.
It's impossible get pregnant. The two artificial hormones, taken regularly, block ovulation.
With no ovulation it is scientifically impossible to get pregnant.

I do know women who have slept with countless men in their life. And never had abortions.
The pill does work. I am sorry.

If it doesn't work, it deals with an ineffective brand, or with lack of regularity (in the administration).

Or intestinal irregularities. You know that you can puke out a pill? (Too) many women don't.
It is never 100% but it is very high effectiveness if correctly applied. And combined efforts (male and female) make it to near 100%.

 

[Heyo]

I know...morning nausea, migraine, inappetence, fatigue.
I do take that too.
It's the price I pay.

Why should I be the only one to pay it?

Did you know that the pill has become less effective over the years? Today's most advanced pills are only half as effective as older formulas but they have a lot less side effects. One downside is that you have to take them exactly at the same time each day. Sleep in once and the risk goes up.

 

[Estro Felino]

Or intestinal irregularities. You know that you can puke out a pill? (Too) many women don't.
It is never 100% but it is very high effectiveness if correctly applied. And combined efforts (male and female) make it to near 100%.

There is a classmate of mine whose mother initiated her to the pill when she was 16.
But she had no boyfriends...she was not that popular in high school.

That's an example...meaning that parents can do a lot to teach their kids sex education.

 

[Estro Felino]

Did you know that the pill has become less effective over the years? Today's most advanced pills are only half as effective as older formulas but they have a lot less side effects. One downside is that you have to take them exactly at the same time each day. Sleep in once and the risk goes up.

Apparently they say that men's fertility has decreased enormously ...since the beginning of the century.
Considering that most women in fertile age take the pill in my country...it's practically impossible to get pregnant by mistake...

It's also a miracle to find a straight handsome guy in my country...so what are the odds?