Only 59, eh.
You've barely lived.
Well, tis good that censoring hate speech
works in your country. Not so suitable for
places like USA, Russia, Thailand, etc.
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More attacks on Free Speech in the UK
- Thread starter icehorse
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You've barely lived.
Well, tis good that censoring hate speech
works in your country. Not so suitable for
places like USA, Russia, Thailand, etc.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Yeah, and how that is understood can vary.
I get that you think your understanding is the correct one. But I still believe differently.
sew.excited73
Wendy-Anne - I am Dutch/British
sew.excited73
Wendy-Anne - I am Dutch/British
As long as the PM doesn't overdo it, and we become completely censored in all our criticism, I can agree with you. But I think so does Elon. He just lets things go a bit further then most would like, as the bullying he had to take as a boy gave him a thicker skin and therefore he is now less easily offended than most people, I guess. I don't know, but that's my assumption.
By the way, serious question, not being sarcky: What is the difference between being offended and being insulted?
I'll use this example again:
"I believe Islam promotes violence, misogyny, homophobia, anti-semitism, and anti-secularism."
Now I'm sure that the previous sentence would be seen as insulting by some people. Should that sentence be censored?
how so?
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Well, it is in some countries for at least some contexts and can be a part of what lands someone in jail.
Sure, but do YOU think it should be censored, for instance in your country?
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Yes, at least for the direct use of the language.
Yikes!
I think one implication of that is that censoring such speech amounts to tolerating intolerant ideas. How can that be okay?
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
I have different feelings than you.
I'm glad I don't live in your country.
(I'm sure the feeling is mutual.)
sew.excited73
Wendy-Anne - I am Dutch/British
At least tolerating intolerant ideas doesn't lead to totalitarianism! (try and say that 3x fast in a row! LOL)
But that's exactly what it allows
Take a look at many Muslim majority, Islamic republics and you'll see that criticism is basically illegal and these countries are very totalitarian.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
But that's exactly what it allows
Take a look at many Muslim majority, Islamic republics and you'll see that criticism is basically illegal and these countries are very totalitarian.
Well, yes. But that is not the same in Europe.
You can still be critical of religion and so on. There are just limits of how you can express it.
Well that's the starting point for this thread! In the UK right now free speech is being sharply curtailed, and that seems extremely dangerous.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
That is your opinion.
I don't think the claim of curtailment is a matter of opinion, as the OP shows.
As for the dangers involved, it is not only my opinion, it's the opinion of most of the best thinkers of the last two or three hundred years. Free speech is the foundation of modern, Western civilization.
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Actually, the definition of imminent means it is just about to happen, not that it is happening and already happened.
Definition of IMMINENT
ready to take place : happening soon —often used of something bad or dangerous seen as menacingly near… See the full definition
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Evidence and logic that they are the best thinkers and that there is an exact version of free spech and that is the foundation of modern, Western civilization.