mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Well you will get the answer to your question in the first 5 minutes
Yeah and I don't agree.
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More attacks on Free Speech in the UK
- Thread starter icehorse
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Yeah and I don't agree.
Free speech is only a valuable right if one
may say offensive & unpopular things.
Otherwise government could get away with
banning things politicians have tried to &
want to criminalize, eg, insulting cops,
criticizing judges, supporting communism,
& best of all, blasphemy.
I don't know much about Starmer other than what I've heard in the last few days. And I understand politicians are mostly coerced and blackmailed into taking many dishonest stances, so he could well be better than average, as politicians go. But here's what I've observed from him already:
- He tries to paint the rioters as being "right wing thugs". No doubt some of them are, but many are just normal Brits fed up with mass immigration.
- He dodges the real issues with mass immigration.
Staying with the current situation in the UK to talk about sunlight:
A large percentage of Muslim immigrants to Europe are Islamists. By "islamist" I mean a Muslim whose goal is to undermine secular society and install a Sharia-based theocracy. Of course not all Muslim immigrants feel this way, but a substantial percentage do. Maybe 30% or 40% or even 50%?
This point is never acknowledged by those in power. If this information had been honestly disseminated starting 30 or 40 years ago, Europe would be in a very different place than it is now.
Another point is that politicians are bound to fight for "economic growth", even though that's not a sustainable goal. If we expose Britian's economic growth to sunlight we'll see it's only "growth" when viewed thru very special lenses. This "growth" is based on exploiting immigrants to do low paying work. This "growth" has not benefitted average Brits at all, in fact the opposite is true.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
None of that is illegal to say in Denmark.
Argentbear
Well-Known Member
and legally engaging in hate speech is a crime
Argentbear
Well-Known Member
but you do have the right to say offensive and unpopular things but if you engage in hate speech you will face legal consequences for your choice to do so.
Argentbear
Well-Known Member
Any actual evidence to back this up?
Of course that's your right, but I feel very comfortable agreeing with John Milton, Thomas Paine, and John Stuart Mills on this point
One person's hate speech is another's
political or religious speech. Or social
commentary. I don't trust government
with the power to decide & enforce it.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Of course that's your right, but I feel very comfortable agreeing with John Milton, Thomas Paine, and John Stuart Mills on this point
Yes, good that you have postive feelings/emotions.
Argentbear
Well-Known Member
It's typically been both.
And more!
You know what kinds of speech you want to criminalize.
Do you believe that government will always agree with you?
Argentbear
Well-Known Member
Well I guess strike down the laws criminalizing cross burning and apologize to racists for infringing on their God given right to terrorize people of color.
As you might have seen on RF, when citations or links are given, they are often besmirched. I'm not saying you'd do that, but other do.
But if you do a search on the phrase "poll of muslims in the UK", you'll get quite a few results. My approach is to not take any single link too seriously, but to find patterns in the results. When I do this search I see a couple of patterns:
- Large percentages of Muslims in the UK support Hamas.
- Large percentage of Muslims in the UK support Sharia.
- Large percentages of Muslims in the UK think homosexuality should be illegal.
Your mileage may vary
Pawpatrol
Active Member
Because that's not even a thing.
in some places yes, and in other no.
But such laws are extremely dangerous, and just because they are laws doesn't mean they are good laws.
Pawpatrol
Active Member
Who do you suggest should enforce it?
Argentbear
Well-Known Member
So you got nothing to back up your claims. why am i not surprised?As you might have seen on RF, when citations or links are given, they are often besmirched. I'm not saying you'd do that, but other do.
But if you do a search on the phrase "poll of muslims in the UK", you'll get quite a few results. My approach is to not take any single link too seriously, but to find patterns in the results. When I do this search I see a couple of patterns:
- Large percentages of Muslims in the UK support Hamas.
- Large percentage of Muslims in the UK support Sharia.
- Large percentages of Muslims in the UK think homosexuality should be illegal.
Your mileage may vary
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
I think I actually ran searches on various things along those lines, like "Percentage of Muslims in UK who are Islamists" and that sort of thing.