Now you're venturing away from hate speech
to crimes such as vandalism & assault. These
are crimes independent of hatred & hate speech.
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More attacks on Free Speech in the UK
- Thread starter icehorse
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to crimes such as vandalism & assault. These
are crimes independent of hatred & hate speech.
Society itself should apply pressure
in a legal manner, eg, influence,
criticism, boycotts.
You're not the first poster on RF to trot out the "it's not happening" argument. At this point I just have to laugh.
It's SUCH a bad argument:
- it somehow assumes that you know EVERYTHING that's going on in the world
- in general in logical discourse, it's well known that it's virtually impossible to prove that a thing does not exist.
Now, I don't believe in unicorns, but that said, please prove to us that they don't exist
Argentbear
Well-Known Member
What exactly is dangerous about laws against the klan burning crosses in peoples yards?
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
I did find this interesting:
muslimcharity.org.uk
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mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
You're not the first poster on RF to trot out the "it's not happening" argument. At this point I just have to laugh.
It's SUCH a bad argument:
- it somehow assumes that you know EVERYTHING that's going on in the world
- in general in logical discourse, it's well known that it's virtually impossible to prove that a thing does not exist.
Now, I don't believe in unicorns, but that said, please prove to us that they don't exist
Yeah, now show with evidence that there are bad people.
I've learned thru long experience that if @Argentbear disagrees with you, no evidence you provide is sufficient. He has repeatedly demonstrated an unwillingness to separate the message from the messenger.
I would hope that it would be clear to you by now that the MSM will be extremely reticent to criticize Islam. So of course you have to look a little deeper. And again, that's why I recommend - if you actually care about the truth - that you have to analyze many links to see if patterns emerge.
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
I also found thishttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_the_United_Kingdom interesting, and it says that the "vast majority" of Muslims in the UK are Sunni Muslims, which is very orthodox and traditional.
en.wikipedia.org
Islam in the United Kingdom - Wikipedia
Pawpatrol
Active Member
The term I'm referring to is "a Muslim that is sharia based". To start with a person can't be "based" on a law.You're not the first poster on RF to trot out the "it's not happening" argument. At this point I just have to laugh.
It's SUCH a bad argument:
- it somehow assumes that you know EVERYTHING that's going on in the world
- in general in logical discourse, it's well known that it's virtually impossible to prove that a thing does not exist.
Now, I don't believe in unicorns, but that said, please prove to us that they don't exist
Of course the poster is trying to say, she wants to know the percentage of Muslims who believe in the sharia law as being the divine law that should exist everywhere possible.
A person who doesn't believe in the divinity and superiority of the sharia is not a Muslim. A person who believes in the sharia or is "based on sharia", if you like, is a Muslim by definition.
Argentbear
Well-Known Member
any factual evidence would be accepted but you consistently refuse to back any of your claims
wow....Irony
Links you refuse to provide
Secret Chief
Veteran Member
You live in the US yet seem to know my country better than I do.You're not the first poster on RF to trot out the "it's not happening" argument. At this point I just have to laugh.
It's SUCH a bad argument:
- it somehow assumes that you know EVERYTHING that's going on in the world
- in general in logical discourse, it's well known that it's virtually impossible to prove that a thing does not exist.
Now, I don't believe in unicorns, but that said, please prove to us that they don't exist
Here's a very small straw poll: the Muslim that I work with is gay.
Pawpatrol
Active Member
The vast majority of all Muslims in the world are "sunni" Muslims, and you certainly don't want to get involved with those who are not (based on some of their stories, you'd think they should be on medication..).I also found thishttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_the_United_Kingdom interesting, and it says that the "vast majority" of Muslims in the UK are Sunni Muslims, which is very orthodox and traditional.
Islam in the United Kingdom - Wikipedia
There is no such thing as "nontraditional" Islam. If it's not traditional, it's not Islam.
I'm a Muslim myself. One of those scary "sunni" Muslims. I don't take any "liberal Muslims" as friends to begin with. All my friends are traditional conservative Muslims.
The Muslim community is 1000% kinder and more sincere with you than you are with them.
Pawpatrol
Active Member
If he doesn't lead such a lifestyle and knows it would be a major sin, I have nothing to say here.
If he says it's okay to lead such a lifestyle, he's not a Muslim.
Pawpatrol
Active Member
Oh great, so no one will do it. Glad you're not the king.
Society already does this.
You haven't noticed?
If I were, I'd be a rather lame one.
Not inclined to ruling with an iron
fist, even if your ilk demand it.
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Interesting. My son is in the US Army and most of his interactions, which were negative, I might add, were with Sunnis.
Ebionite
Well-Known Member
Violent extremism is found mostly with the Sunnis, rather than Shia Islam. Those most opposed to violence are the Ahmadiyya Muslims, who have a different interpretation of the title of seal of the prophets which is applied to Muhammad. The prophetic context supports the Ahmadiyyas, not that of mainstream Islam.
sew.excited73
Wendy-Anne - I am Dutch/British
Indeed it is.
Terrywoodenpic
Oldest Heretic
The police are inevitably inconsistent.
This is usually caused by lack of evidence sufficient to convict. So some people get away with their crimes.
We need to make wearing disguises an addition crime during riots, making the punishment more severe.