Mormon Church refuses to bless children of Same-Sex Couples.

[Sonofason]

Don't flatter yourself. You're quite insignificant compared to what's on my mind or what I've gone through just today.

With regard to our discussion I hardly see how your personal life matters. But if you wish to message me and tell me about your day, I'd be happy to listen.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

With regard to our discussion I hardly see how your personal life matters. But if you wish to message me and tell me about your day, I'd be happy to listen.

I'm just pointing out to you that you don't matter enough to me to fluster me. You don't matter at all to me and I would never message you about anything, and I think it's ludicrous that you could even imagine me doing so.

 

[Sonofason]

That's a shame, because I speak the truth. I only wish more people would do the same; then we'd have many more critical thinkers in this world.

I agree. We should all be honest in every aspect of our lives, to the minute detail.

 

[Sonofason]

I'm just pointing out to you that you don't matter enough to me to fluster me. You don't matter at all to me and I would never message you about anything, and I think it's ludicrous that you could even imagine me doing so.

I am not trying to fluster anyone. Yet the very fact that you were compelled to tell me that I am not flustering you reveals to me that you have indeed become flustered.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I am not trying to fluster anyone. Yet the very fact that you were compelled to tell me that I am not flustering you reveals to me that you have indeed become flustered.

LOL. You can imagine whatever your ego compels you to.

 

[Sonofason]

The fact is teaching is indoctrination. In common usage we refer to indoctrination as teachings that go against what we believe should be taught. Yet what I think should be taught, you do not...Which means that what I think should be taught would be considered indoctrination to you, but not to me. The truth is all teaching is indoctrination.

 

[Sonofason]

LOL. You can imagine whatever your ego compels you to.

And of course, that's what I do.

 

[Sonofason]

What makes you think I'm an atheist? Or, that if I ever do have kids, I'd make them follow my spiritual beliefs?

Your atheism is obvious to me, as I am certain that there is only one God, and you have made it clear that you do not believe in that one God. I cannot be certain that you would indoctrinate your children to follow your spiritual beliefs, but I am inclined to believe that you would, because that is what we do.

The apple doesn't fall far from the tree

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Your atheism is obvious to me, as I am certain that there is only one God, and you have made it clear that you do not believe in that one God. I cannot be certain that you would indoctrinate your children to follow your spiritual beliefs, but I am inclined to believe that you would, because that what we do.

Oh, I think there's probably many gods, whether they're literal entities, forces, energies, archetypes, egregores, something else or some combination thereof. I just hate yours.

Nah, my kids could believe whatever they wanted. The Left-Hand Path isn't something you can be indoctrinated into and indoctrination is contrary to what the LHP is about in the first place. You make up your own mind.

 

[SkepticThinker]

It seems that you are the one who's forgotten that fact...not me. But you are free to subvert the conversation, and what I've said. I love when you guys go on this path, because I know I've struck a nerve, and you have come to your wit's end...literally, your wits end.

What a weird thing to say.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Your atheism is obvious to me, as I am certain that there is only one God, and you have made it clear that you do not believe in that one God. I cannot be certain that you would indoctrinate your children to follow your spiritual beliefs, but I am inclined to believe that you would, because that is what we do.

The apple doesn't fall far from the tree

No, that is what you do. Not we.

 

[Sonofason]

Oh, I think there's probably many gods, whether they're literal entities, forces, energies, archetypes, egregores, something else or some combination thereof. I just hate yours.

Nah, my kids could believe whatever they wanted. The Left-Hand Path isn't something you can be indoctrinated into and indoctrination is contrary to what the LHP is about in the first place. You make up your own mind.

I do not believe you would feel that way about God if you knew Him, or even if you ever had the faintest awareness of Him. Perhaps one day you won't have to wonder how many gods there are, or what they are, but find your self resting in Him. But tell me, why do you "think" there are many gods. What is a god to you?

 

[Sonofason]

What a weird thing to say.

logic and reason is always frustrating to those who fail to employ it.

 

[Sonofason]

No, that is what you do. Not we.

Okay maybe not you, just everyone else, including me.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I do not believe you would feel that way about God if you knew Him, or even if you ever had the faintest awareness of Him. Perhaps one day you won't have to wonder how many gods there are, or what they are, but find your self resting in Him. But tell me, why do you "think" there are many gods. What is a god to you?

I know enough about your god to know that I want nothing to do with him.

Deities are vaguely defined in the first place. I tend to view them as archetypes, ideals and divinized aspects of reality and human nature. I'm agnostic about it, really, but I make use of the deity concept for my own purposes, especially when it comes to metaphor and describing certain things pertaining to the psyche.

So, from that view, there's no reason to think that there's only one god.

 

[Sonofason]

I know enough about your god to know that I want nothing to do with him.

Deities are vaguely defined in the first place. I tend to view them as archetypes, ideals and divinized aspects of reality and human nature. I'm agnostic about it, really, but I make use of the deity concept for my own purposes, especially when it comes to metaphor and describing certain things pertaining to the psyche.

So, from that view, there's no reason to think that there's only one god.

Not very comforting, and very impersonal, but by all means, have at it. I prefer the God you never knew, who is loving, caring and very personal.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Not very comforting, and very impersonal, but by all means, have at it. I prefer the God you never knew, who is loving, caring and very personal.

I'm no longer looking for "comfort" because the gods who pretend to be full of love are usually the most hateful and human-hating. For example, pretty much the god(s) of all the major religions (except for Islam, where Allah doesn't even bother with pretending to be loving; with Islam, the mask slips) are rigid, tyrannical, oppressive deities that fill their followers heads with sweet lies.

As for personal, if they're archetypes or aspects of humanity then they're parts of ourselves. Not much more personal than that.

 

[Kirran]

Not very comforting, and very impersonal, but by all means, have at it. I prefer the God you never knew, who is loving, caring and very personal.

Speaking as someone with a strong relationship with God, I would like to say that while we may refer to God by such labels, God is surely ultimately beyond our ability to describe.

 

[Sonofason]

I'm no longer looking for "comfort" because the gods who pretend to be full of love are usually the most hateful and human-hating. For example, pretty much the god(s) of all the major religions (except for Islam, where Allah doesn't even bother with pretending to be loving; with Islam, the mask slips) are rigid, tyrannical, oppressive deities that fill their followers heads with sweet lies.

As for personal, if they're archetypes or aspects of humanity then they're parts of ourselves. Not much more personal than that.

Yeah right. You're a god. Good luck with that.

 

[Sonofason]

Speaking as someone with a strong relationship with God, I would like to say that while we may refer to God by such labels, God is surely ultimately beyond our ability to describe.

If we do not describe God as we experience God, and by such labels, then we cannot describe Him at all. And if we cannot describe God at all, He is useless and worthless to all of us