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[Robert.Evans]

You don't think skin colour is a defining feature?
Bahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!

Operator : Hello, 911. What's the emergency.
Caller : 2 men robbed my house.
Operator : Can you describe them?
Caller : Sure, but I can't tell you the colour of their skin since it is not a defining characteristic.

Of course racism isn't LIMITED to skin colour.

Never said the first part.
And the last sentence agrees with me. So what are you arguing about?

 

[lewisnotmiller]

correct, that is becasue we are all racist, something you refuse to accept it seems.

Says who?

I do. Now define racism. The definition you gave me backs me up. What is your basic thought when you think of racism? I think it is white man against black man. Correct?

No, actually. I've travelled a fair bit, lived in a few countries, and seen many instances of sexism and racism apart from those you might consider the 'normal' stereotypes. Besides, anyone with a basic reading of African history would know how ridiculous that definition would be.

 

[Robert.Evans]

And yet you're still complaining about it...

Why not? Should we treat her differently?

 

[lewisnotmiller]

Never said the first part.
And the last sentence agrees with me. So what are you arguing about?

The last sentence agrees with you? That's satirical though...it's not a statement of...
Nevermind. Let's try it this way instead.


I have suggested that racism is uncalled for.
You have decided you understand what I mean by racism, and are now seeking to educate me.
You are unable to accept that my understanding of racism is more nuanced than you have assigned to me.
You have no issue with a poster who said racism can be justified.
And I need to explain why the definition I posted doesn't explicitly talk about skin colour, because you've decided to assign to me an understanding of racism as something like 'white dudes trodding on the poor black man'.

Is that vaguely close to what I am reading?

1) Explain to me when racism is justified, since my argument was that it is NOT.
2) If racism is a word devoid of meaning, how would you describe the general thrust of an organisation like the KKK (since you don't want to personalise with my Dad)

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

Why not?

Because it's a dick move, rather heartless, and extremely selfish.

Should we treat her differently?

Nope, we should treat her like any other poster. Treat her with dignity for goodness' sake. That is to say, don't ***** about her font size, the font she uses, whether she emboldens, italicises or underlines etc. The only person treating JoStories differently here is you. Nobody else spends their time complaining about her post style because nobody is else is that immature.

 

[Robert.Evans]

The last sentence agrees with you? That's satirical though...it's not a statement of...
Nevermind. Let's try it this way instead.


I have suggested that racism is uncalled for.
You have decided you understand what I mean by racism, and are now seeking to educate me.
You are unable to accept that my understanding of racism is more nuanced than you have assigned to me.
You have no issue with a poster who said racism can be justified.
And I need to explain why the definition I posted doesn't explicitly talk about skin colour, because you've decided to assign to me an understanding of racism as something like 'white dudes trodding on the poor black man'.

Is that vaguely close to what I am reading?

1) Explain to me when racism is justified, since my argument was that it is NOT.
2) If racism is a word devoid of meaning, how would you describe the general thrust of an organisation like the KKK (since you don't want to personalise with my Dad)

Let's start again before I lose the will to live:

I am saying any group of things is race. So it is unfair to use that word against a certain group of people only. In itself, that would be racism. That is it.

Would these be racist:

White man hates black man.
Black man hates white man.
Man hates people with curly hair.
Man hates people who sit on the street.
Man hates supporters of another football team.

Is it right that only two of those would be demonized?

 

[lewisnotmiller]

Let's start again before I lose the will to live:

I am saying any group of things is race. So it is unfair to use that word against a certain group of people only. In itself, that would be racism. That is it.

Would these be racist:

White man hates black man.
Black man hates white man.
Man hates people with curly hair.
Man hates people who sit on the street.
Man hates supporters of another football team.

Is it right that only two of those would be demonized?

Oh. And when did I use the word only against a certain group of people?

 

[Robert.Evans]

Because it's a dick move, rather heartless, and extremely selfish.

Who, her or me? And why is it selfish to own a view?

Nope, we should treat her like any other poster.

Except for the font size I guess.

Treat her with dignity for goodness' sake. That is to say, don't ***** about her font size, the font she uses, whether she emboldens, italicises or underlines etc. The only person treating JoStories differently here is you. Nobody else spends their time complaining about her post style because nobody is else is that immature.

So hinting at me being "immature" is dignified?
And it is not about the bolding etc, it is the size. You must have to enlargen the rest to read it, and if not, why post that bigger when she knows no one else needs it that big? Is that also being "selfish"?

 

[Robert.Evans]

Oh. And when did I use the word only against a certain group of people?

Is this a game or something? Are you agreeing with me that any group of things can be a race? and if so, what are you arguing about?

 

[Sunstone]

Oh. And when did I use the word only against a certain group of people?

Ok you didn't. But maybe you wanted to. And maybe because you wanted to, you were sending off brain waves. And maybe Robert Evans was reading those brain waves. And then, maybe, maybe, that's when he said you were. Maybe.

 

[Kirran]

No such thing as race, as anything more than a sociocultural construct.

No scientific backing. Characteristics would need to be distinctly and collectively grouped in subpopulations, which they are not.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

Is this a game or something? Are you agreeing with me that any group of things can be a race? and if so, what are you arguing about?

Just to be clear. I suggested that racism is not justifiable. You decided to take issue with that, and have done so by arguing the meaning of racism. What you have NOT done is tell me a situation where it's justifiable. And I'm playing games.

'K.

This is the same you that has no issue with a poster saying racism can be justifiable. Let's go with the sports supporter definition then, even if I find it a stretch of the term's intent. Is soccer hooliganism not an actual issue?

 

[lewisnotmiller]

Ok you didn't. But maybe you wanted to. And maybe because you wanted to, you were sending off brain waves. And maybe Robert Evans was reading those brain waves. And then, maybe, maybe, that's when he said you were. Maybe.

Dunno. I've been accused of emanating things before, but rarely brain waves. I can't help it if I like Mexican food. Although perhaps I should just call it corn-based food, to be safe.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

Who, her or me? And why is it selfish to own a view?

You. You are being selfish and heartless. It's selfish & heartless to complain that somebody is dealing with their disability in a way you don't approve of. She doesn't need your approval so why are you acting like she does?

Except for the font size I guess.

Why? Why do you need to treat her differently because she uses a different font size?

So hinting at me being "immature" is dignified?

No, I wasn't hinting. I straight out said you were immature. How can you confuse that for hinting? There's no ambiguity!

And it is not about the bolding etc, it is the size. You must have to enlargen the rest to read it, and if not, why post that bigger when she knows no one else needs it that big? Is that also being "selfish"?

No Jo is not being selfish, she's customising her post format to something she is comfortable with. Insisting Jo tailor her posts specifically to make you feel better is selfish because you're acting as if her needs are of no importance at all, or that she take your needs specifically into account when she writes her posts. Why do you care, anyway? Larger text is not harder to read. You are not being inconvenienced. Stop trying to be the victim here. It's not cute, clever or funny.

 

[Demonslayer]

You must have to enlargen the rest to read it, and if not, why post that bigger when she knows no one else needs it that big? Is that also being "selfish"?

Wow, so it's a bother to you to click the little "expand" window because a person with serious vision impairment needs to use a larger font?

It must be your deep faith in God that makes you such a kind understanding soul. Jesus would be proud.

 

[leibowde84]

Never let it get you down so far as you can't get back up again. No one ever said it would always be 'beer and skittles', to coin a pun.

"Coin a pun"?!! Haha. That's from the Simpsons:

"Apu, I'm feeling pretty low. Can I have a six pack of beer with the candy floating in it? You know ... skittlebrau?"

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Yeah right. You're a god. Good luck with that.

I can function as the god of my own life as much as I can. Through successive lives and the accumulation of knowledge, wisdom and experience, I may actually become one.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

No such thing as race, as anything more than a sociocultural construct.

No scientific backing. Characteristics would need to be distinctly and collectively grouped in subpopulations, which they are not.

Race does exist, but the cultural concept of race is incorrect, usually making both sides in arguments about it wrong. For example, it has more to do with bone structure rather than skin color and such. Skin color has very little to do with which race you are.

 

[leibowde84]

Anything can be "race". The definition has been shortened nowadays, mostly to control a group of people, usually white, and to stop the blacks (usually) from rioting. You are being "racist" right now in stating YOUR opinion. Ideas, beliefs, families, all are "race". Think again.

Something that is chosen, like religious adherence, cannot be considered a race. I don't think we should ever allow people who face religious discrimination to hijack the word "race" for their own benefit, as it is completely different subject matter. Discrimination on the basis of race is always wrong, as one's race cannot be changed or chosen. Religious adherence is based on ideas or beliefs, which should always be open to scrutiny and even ridicule. We all have the responsibility to explain/support our beliefs with reasoned explanations.

 

[leibowde84]

So we should all do that now for you? Why don't you decrease it and show your compassion for us? You must have to increase it to read it.

This is an extremely insensitive, ignorant, and flat-out heartless comment. Why do you think she makes her font larger, genius?! She is visually impaired. Show some decency for Christ's sake!