Alceste
Vagabond
You have to admit "inter-faith swimming pool and convention centre a few blocks away from ground zero", while accurate, doesn't convey the same sense of urgency.
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Mosque at Ground Zero
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You have to admit "inter-faith swimming pool and convention centre a few blocks away from ground zero", while accurate, doesn't convey the same sense of urgency.
Autodidact
Intentionally Blank
What I think is weird is that people think it's somehow up to them. I mean, these are mostly ostensibly conservative people, who believe in private property and their right to do what they want without government interference--unless you're Muslim? Then somehow you need permission from the government? The only way it came up for vote at all was whether to give historic landmark status--to an abandoned Burlington Warehouse store? C'mon, people.
In a nutshell, it's their land, they want to build a community center, and why should they not be allowed to do so?
In a nutshell, it's their land, they want to build a community center, and why should they not be allowed to do so?
Autodidact
Intentionally Blank
Is the YMCA a church? Because their goal is to create a Muslim YMCA that's open to the community. I know this because I have spoken to them personally.
tumbleweed41
Resident Liberal Hippie
I have a better idea, lets call it what it is, and place it where it is actually going to be, and keep the misleading false information on FoxNews where it belongs.
Alceste
Vagabond
How many mosques have you been to with a swimming pool?
EtuMalku
Abn Iblis ابن إبليس
Autodidact,
If that is the case, AND it stays that way, then I could see it being a beneficial aspect for the Muslim faith and towards the healing process.
If that is the case, AND it stays that way, then I could see it being a beneficial aspect for the Muslim faith and towards the healing process.
croak
Trickster
Their colonial histories look pretty different as well.
I'm sure colonialism has nothing whatsoever to do with that.
Also, world-systems theory could provide another view.
Basically, I'm not going to deny that many Muslim countries have issues. I'm not going to deny many countries in general have issues, either.
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But, to get back on topic: Muslims want to build a community centre. And?
I don't see any problem with it.
darkendless
Guardian of Asgaard
Do you guys have public planning?
Here we can lobby if we think the land use is unnesessary or against community spirit. Not long ago a muslim school was denied by the council for being against the common needs of the immediate community.
Smoke
Done here.
It's pretty well established in the U.S. that religious groups can do damned near anything they want. I mean, we frown on unlicensed children's homes, but nobody's going to tell you you can't have a religious school.
darkendless
Guardian of Asgaard
Oh wow i didn't know there were more of them. I live futher north on the Gold Coast. This is the only article i could find but the issue was resolved and protests got the allocation denied by the council: The Islamic School(s) We Had To Have And The Never Ending Muhammedan Grievance Theater… â Winds Of Jihad By SheikYerMami
In Lebanon are their restrictions on public buildings? I have to confess my knowledge of your country is very limited
Rakhel
Well-Known Member
Obviously you didn't read this.
Half-baked mosque - NYPOST.com
If you will read, they only own half of the building (which is actually two buildings, not one). ConEd owns the other half
croak
Trickster
So they ended up giving up due to the restrictions imposed? Makes sense if it was in a residential zone and any other building in the zone would be subject to the same restrictions.
I can't say mine's much better.In Lebanon are their restrictions on public buildings? I have to confess my knowledge of your country is very limited
My Arabic isn't fantastic, either. In Lebanon, it seems like if you have the money, you're practically free to do what you want. There are laws in place, of course. Darned if I know what they are.
croak
Trickster
They're leasing the land till 2071 and planning to buy it anyways. It doesn't even matter if they don't buy it (until 2071, of course).
Con Ed Will Not Block the Ground Zero Mosque, Despite Reports - DNAinfo.com
Rakhel
Well-Known Member
Interesting on how this has not been reported in the local news
croak
Trickster
How they don't own all the property, or the fact that they don't really doesn't matter?
Autodidact
Intentionally Blank
That is their goal, and why the neighborhood supported it, including 9/11 survivors and families. There is no swimming pool and no public meeting space in that neighborhood. The Cordoba people want to make a community building that is sponsored by Muslims, and has room for prayer, but open to the entire community. They want to present a model of American unity against the terrorist concept that America is an enemy to Islam. Good job at screwing that up, Americans.