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Most BLM protests are peaceful, despite claims to the contrary

Cooky

Veteran Member
Media coverage of events resulting in a distortion of perceived frequency of events is nothing new. It's been going on since.... well... probably since at least the printing press existed, honestly. News coverage is never statistically representational of goings-on in the world partially because it's not intended to be. Regardless of media literacy, there's a tendency to perceive that which we hear about as more frequent or common even if it isn't as well. The only good counter to that is critical thinking and more in-depth investigative reporting/journalism.

With peaceful protests they want it to seem big, but when things go wrong, they want it to seem small.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I haven't heard the claim that most BLM protests aren't peaceful.
It's obvious that most are. But news coverage typically ignores
such non-news.
 

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Yes, let’s not condemn acts of arson, shootings, bombings, attacks on police, and wholesale destruction of property so long as “most of the protesters”(sic) are “peaceful”.
 

Tambourine

Well-Known Member
Yes, let’s not condemn acts of arson, shootings, bombings, attacks on police, and wholesale destruction of property so long as “most of the protesters”(sic) are “peaceful”.
Would it be okay for you to condemn all cops for the actions of a few?
Or are these generalizations only okay when the target is on the incorrect side politics?
 

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Would it be okay for you to condemn all cops for the actions of a few?
Or are these generalizations only okay when the target is on the incorrect side politics?
Would it be ok for you to condemn those that actually do wrong no matter who they are?
 

Tambourine

Well-Known Member
With peaceful protests they want it to seem big, but when things go wrong, they want it to seem small.
I have no idea who "they" are, but if you mean the media, then the facts on the ground suggest the exact opposite relationship.
 

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
We obviously disagree on that issue, but I do not believe that protesting against police brutality is wrong
So you couldn’t even answer a simple yes to my question of “Would it be ok for you to condemn those that actually do wrong no matter who they are?” I now understand.
 

Tambourine

Well-Known Member
So you couldn’t even answer a simple yes to my question of “Would it be ok for you to condemn those that actually do wrong no matter who they are?” I now understand.
I did not answer your question with a simple "yes" because I didn't understand what you were even talking about.

What do you mean by "doing wrong"? What "wrongs" am I supposed to condemn here?
Protesting? Killing? Being a Marxist?
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
The Right has a right to protest, and they do so all the time. They don't have a right to murder us, like Mr. Rittenhouse did.



Actually no, it doesn't. The organizers are generally not responsible for the sporadic violence that happens. The organizers repeatedly tell protestors to be peaceful. It's known that violence at BLM protests has been stoked by right-wingers posing as BLM folks, and by other opportunists who have nothing to do with BLM. It's also been the case for years that right-wing domestic terrorism is more prevalent here in the States than left-wing terrorism.
Not when the organizers are themselves calling for the violence and destruction.
 

McBell

Unbound
Nearly all Black Lives Matter protests are peaceful despite Trump narrative, report finds

So it seems that now even independent studies were able to confirm that the narrative of Antifa terrorists looting and burning entire cities is largely without factual support. I know, what a surprising new development, I hardly would have expected such a thing!
Except that neither you, nor the article confirm such a claim.
At best you can claim that it is not nearly as wide spread or common practice as Trump and the media would like for everyone to believe.

Now, sarcasm aside, with media coverage in the US seemingly so polarized that two political camps are unable to even communicate, let alone find any sort of common ground, I doubt that this information will sway many minds in either direction. We sadly live in an era where even basic facts have become so heavily politicized that it seems almost impossible for people of different political persuasion to agree on some basic facts on the ground such as the ones shown in the article.
The basic fact is that if the BLM movement was as violent as claimed, there would be much more violence.
I have driven by and through a buttload (real measurement) of BLM protests all over Indiana, Ohio, Michigan, and Illinois.
Not a single one of them were violent.

So I knew long BEFORE your article that the BLM violence narrative was big steaming pile of bovine feces.
 

Left Coast

This Is Water
Staff member
Premium Member
Not when the organizers are themselves calling for the violence and destruction.

As has been explained, this is rare. The vast majority of protests and protestors are peaceful.

I wish people like yourself were more upset by the numerous murders that cause these protests than the occasional graffiti and broken windows that happen because of them.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
As has been explained, this is rare. The vast majority of protests and protestors are peaceful.

I wish people like yourself were more upset by the numerous murders that cause these protests than the occasional graffiti and broken windows that happen because of them.

Perhaps a new definition for occasional is in order? I suppose one could argue semantics all day long if not for perpetuity.


We will see how peaceful things are after the elections.
 

Left Coast

This Is Water
Staff member
Premium Member
Perhaps a new definition for occasional is in order? I suppose one could argue semantics all day long if not for perpetuity.

One can equivocate between murder and graffiti all day long too, I suppose. Not rationally, but one can do it.

We will see how peaceful things are after the elections.

Indeed. How violent will Trump supporters get if he loses? Sigh.
 

tytlyf

Not Religious
Why is no one talking about the thousands of small businesses destroyed forever due to Trump's incompetence? I think the handful of businesses that were burned have insurance and will rebuild.
Trump's destruction on small businesses won't have them coming back, they're gone forever.
 

Tambourine

Well-Known Member
Except that neither you, nor the article confirm such a claim.
At best you can claim that it is not nearly as wide spread or common practice as Trump and the media would like for everyone to believe.
If you think the article is making errors, then feel free to point them out so everyone can examine your argument.
 

Watchmen

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Nearly all Black Lives Matter protests are peaceful despite Trump narrative, report finds

So it seems that now even independent studies were able to confirm that the narrative of Antifa terrorists looting and burning entire cities is largely without factual support. I know, what a surprising new development, I hardly would have expected such a thing!

Now, sarcasm aside, with media coverage in the US seemingly so polarized that two political camps are unable to even communicate, let alone find any sort of common ground, I doubt that this information will sway many minds in either direction. We sadly live in an era where even basic facts have become so heavily politicized that it seems almost impossible for people of different political persuasion to agree on some basic facts on the ground such as the ones shown in the article.
Congratulations. Your body is 93% healthy. The other 7% has cancer. But that’s not a problem, right?
 
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