Most BLM protests are peaceful, despite claims to the contrary

[Shaul]

Household bleach is about 95% water, but it isn’t safe to drink.

 

[Valjean]

"Removing funds from (Note that this doesn't necessarily mean ALL funds) and redistributing those funds to social welfare and community programs".

In the the Peasant's Revolt of 1381, the peasants were crushed, their demands denied, and many executed.

The Syrian uprising laid waste an entire country.
Etc., etc., etc...

I don't see your point. Progress has always been a struggle, with wins and losses. A loss says nothing about the righteousness of the movement, nor is a loss the end of the struggle.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Protest is as American as apple pie, such as the Boston Tea Party, for just one example.

We know or ought to know how the tea was connected with King George as they threw it into the harbor.

How is the local Nike store or local Jewelry store connected with Trump? I have a feeling they didnt throw it into a nearby body of water.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Also, please ask yourselves what the purpose of a physical protest is, when we have a news media via the internet and television?

Everyone's already aware...

...Unless the purpose is actually to create an environment where physical destruction can take place... A terroristic form of persuasion.

Makes me wonder just who exactly they were persuading. *yikes*

I'm sure each and every ravaged and looted store owner and its staff are now going to rush to the polls and vote Biden.

 

[Cooky]

We know or ought to know how the tea was connected with King George as they threw it into the harbor.

How is the local Nike store or local Jewelry store connected with Trump? I have a feeling they didnt throw it into a nearby body of water.

I'm positive these looters figure it hurts some white person somewhere... And that's all it takes for a simple minded person.

 

[Valjean]

Also, please ask yourselves what the purpose of a physical protest is, when we have a news media via the internet and television?

Everyone's already aware...

...Unless the purpose is actually to create an environment where physical destruction can take place... A terroristic form of persuasion.

The arguments for reform and political positions of the reformers have always been published, but it's only when pressure is brought to bear on those invested in the status quo, and injustices dragged out into the open and made front page, that the issues become a widespread concern.
Had there not been a militant women's suffrage or civil rights movement, what do you think the state of race relations or voting rights would be today?

 

[Twilight Hue]

I'm positive these looters figure it hurts some white person somewhere... And that's all it takes for a simple minded person.

I think its more along the lines of the opportunity for that individual to get that coveted 5 finger discount at minimal risk to themselves.

People that steal tend to think society owes them things.

 

[Valjean]

Makes me wonder just who exactly they were persuading. *yikes*

I'm sure each and every ravaged and looted store owner and its staff are now going to rush to the polls and vote Biden.

I should think those harmed by the built-up anger would be eager to address the cause of the anger, rather than just restore order by force and allow the pressure to continue to build, insuring an even more violent uprising down the road.

 

[Cooky]

I think its more along the lines of the opportunity for that individual to get that coveted 5 finger discount at minimal risk to themselves.

People that steal tend to think society owes them things.

You're probably right, I give them too much credit. They're probably not even smart enough to think about who they're stealing from as long as it's not their dope dealer, because he might bust a cap in em'.

 

[Valjean]

There's great drive to justify rioting, vandalism, looting, & arson
over & above mere protesting. It's the "by any means necessary"
philosophy. I disagree that it's appropriate in modern Ameristan.

But if they do argue that violent protests are useful, protestors
enduring violence from authority was part of that in Ameristan
(& famously in India). By their reasoning, suffering is essential
to the process. The protests would fail if protester violence
went unanswered in kind. I don't like that either.

To justify it, or to explain it?
I'd like to see the protestors themselves arresting those they see looting or breaking. It's the rioters who are the greatest threat
to the movement. Their misbehavior fuels the opposition.

 

[Tambourine]

Household bleach is about 95% water, but it isn’t safe to drink.

Then I guess we should abolish the police, since they aren't made up of 100% good people.

 

[Mr Spinkles]

Household bleach is about 95% water, but it isn’t safe to drink.

Someone should warn the President!

 

[Revoltingest]

To justify it, or to explain it?

Both.
But I've no objection to explanation that isn't
about enabling, excusing, or justification.

I'd like to see the protestors themselves arresting those they see looting or breaking. It's the rioters who are the greatest threat
to the movement. Their misbehavior fuels the opposition.

Citizen's arrest?
An interesting idea.

 

[metis]

It's ironic how people who seemingly follow an ideology of maximizing liberty and free markets somehow always appear to end up on the same side as the agents of oppression and tyranny.

No doubt that's all too often the case.

And then there's the irony of me being charged of using an ad hominem attack for mentioning that such a position is incompatible with defending Trump, who hardly is a "libertarian"-- or even a "conservative" for that matter. He's neither a fiscal conservative, not a political conservative, nor a social conservative, but he has his fan club believing he's a conservative. Bizarre.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

Also, please ask yourselves what the purpose of a physical protest is, when we have a news media via the internet and television?

Because news media is absolutely always fair and balanced?

Everyone's already aware...

...Unless the purpose is actually to create an environment where physical destruction can take place... A terroristic form of persuasion.

Wow.

Free speech = terrorism.

That's a first.

 

[Cooky]

Because news media is absolutely always fair and balanced?


Wow.

Free speech = terrorism.

That's a first.

I never said any of that.

 

[Revoltingest]

I never said any of that.

But it's how discussions here so often proceed, eh.
It's easier to win an argument against invented claims.

 

[Cooky]

But it's how discussions here so often proceed, eh.
It's easier to win an argument against invented claims.

I've never seen the easy road as either entertaining or informative... Not a fan.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

I never said any of that.

You literally described protest as a "terroristic form of persuasion", and you suggested they were unnecessary because of modern media.

 

[Cooky]

You literally described protest as a "terroristic form of persuasion", and you suggested they were unnecessary because of modern media.

If you look closer, what I was saying is that the protests serve as an unintended opportunity for the more terroristic rioters.