ImmortalFlame
Woke gremlin
Would that reform include defunding?
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Most BLM protests are peaceful, despite claims to the contrary
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Possibly.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I'm kind-of wondering the converse if it is Trump that gets a second term? ;Op
I agree though, it certianly appears things will turn ugly either way.
I think we should replace "defunding" with "reallocating",
so as to suggest something other than a reduction of
service. We need to reallocate resources to ancillary
services, eg, mental health, counselling. This could
reduce the workload for cops, particularly in areas
they're not trained for.
But aside from that, I think increased spending is in
order. The job cops do has enormous impact, & should
therefore require more stringent recruitment standards,
more training, more professionalism, higher pay, & more
oversight.
It won't be cheap, but it would be money well spent.
There'd be offsetting benefits, eg, less damage to the
populace, reduced lawsuit judgment payouts, fewer
riots, less property destruction.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Not if they have stolen, looted, and murdered. I would refer to them as Cujo.
ImmortalFlame
Woke gremlin
It could also "possibly" involve every member of the police force being made to wear Winnie The Pooh costumes.
The question is, if you want police reform, what kind of reform would you like, and would you consider defunding the police to be included?
This isn't a "gotcha" question.
Do you still strangle puppies in your spare time?
But it's the only way substantive social change occurs, isn't it?
It wasn't voting and letters to the editor that got women the vote, civil rights for blacks or the US out of Vietnam.
What if those who were stealing and looting were not part of the protest, and the ones murdering were on the anti-protest side?
Define "defunding."
I hate crowds to begin with.
But add in hostility, unity, chanting, signs, & sometimes violence....ugh.
ImmortalFlame
Woke gremlin
"Removing funds from (Note that this doesn't necessarily mean ALL funds) and redistributing those funds to social welfare and community programs".
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
The same. Yes I'm sure the right has its troublemakers as well.
Cooky
Veteran Member
In the the Peasant's Revolt of 1381, the peasants were crushed, their demands denied, and many executed.
The Syrian uprising laid waste an entire country.
Etc., etc., etc...
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And yet, it's how our very nation was founded and how most civil rights movements gained headway.
Cooky
Veteran Member
Are you sure about that? How do you know it wasn't the will of the majority that caused the changes to begin with, regardless of the existence of public protest..? Because there's a long list of protests throughout history, and the end results seem random in comparison to the existence of the protest itself.
...Maybe will of the majority is all that's ever mattered? And protests are just 'side things' on their own.
Uses you can actually prove that protests are actually effective in changing public opinion in their favor?
Cooky
Veteran Member
Also, please ask yourselves what the purpose of a physical protest is, when we have a news media via the internet and television?
Everyone's already aware...
...Unless the purpose is actually to create an environment where physical destruction can take place... A terroristic form of persuasion.
Everyone's already aware...
...Unless the purpose is actually to create an environment where physical destruction can take place... A terroristic form of persuasion.
McBell
Unbound
It weeds out the armchair protestersAlso, please ask yourselves what the purpose of a physical protest is, when we have a news media via the internet and television?
Everyone's already aware...
...Unless the purpose is actually to create an environment where physical destruction can take place... A terroristic form of persuasion.
