Muslim Brotherhood Statement Denouncing UN Women Declaration for Violating Sharia Principles

[FearGod]

Swiss woman 'gang-raped' in central India

The woman was camping with her husband at a village in Datia district on Friday during a cycling trip when they were attacked by eight to 10 men.
The assailants overpowered the husband before gang-raping his wife.
More than 20 people have been detained in connection with the attack, which has led the Swiss embassy to demand a thorough investigation.
The victim, who is reported to be 39 years old, has been admitted to hospital in Gwalior. She is conscious and has spoken to the authorities.
The tourists had been cycling from Orchha to Agra, to see the Taj Mahal, a distance of about 250km (155 miles), when they decided to camp overnight at a village.

One report cited the victim's husband as saying that the group of men had approached them at about 21:30 (16:00 GMT). They then began beating him with wooden sticks before tying him up and sexually assaulting his wife in front of him, he is reported to have added.
The assailants stole the couple's valuables, including 10,000 rupees ($185) and a laptop computer, before fleeing into the woods.
The incident comes three months after the gang-rape and murder of a 23-year-old female student on a bus in the capital, Delhi, which triggered widespread protests against the treatment of women in India.
On Monday, one of the suspects was found dead in prison. Police said Ram Singh hanged himself, but his family suspect he was murdered.

Reference : BBC News - Swiss woman 'gang-raped' in central India

What punishment those animals deserve,

i think one way ticket to hell fire.

 

[islam abduallah]

Women in Muslim countries are disinclined to report rape, for fear of the stigma associated with sexual impurity. Women who do report rape (or get caught having been raped) are often murdered for adultery. Some are raped again by the police they are trying to report the rape to. Police in Muslim countries are extremely unlikely to intervene in a case of marital rape, date rape, or rape by an acquaintance, since the mentality is that women can not be raped by their husbands and unmarried women should not even have male acquaintances.

seems you just saying what the media is telling, indeed you are talking about another community that i don't even hear about,

indeed the Muslim women usually report the rape too quickly as she may get pregnant and then how she will justify it? so she reported it to avoid be offended as doing adultery not the opposite as you say, last year a woman recorded that ten of men had raped her, what happened the police catch them and then the judge decide to execute the ten men as per the Islamic law, and they get executed for the honor of one woman, so indeed reporting is happening here, and let's assume that we don't have too much reports, those top 20 rank countries still has a problem like UK is 24% it can't be justified that the way of dealing with this problem is obvious wrong

I have lived alone and walked the darkest, seediest streets of every major city in Canada in the middle of the night - I traveled all over Europe alone at 18 - and I never had any kind of problem, except for some very creepy advances by north African muslims in Paris, I'm sorry to say. Clearly we are doing something right, and your idealized Muslim countries could learn a lot from us when it comes to ensuring the safety of women.

i'm not saying that it's purely evil in the west nor it's ideal here, i know about the attitude of the Muslims of northern African in France and Belgium

i'm just saying that we are in general are honoring the women without such documents that we don't need as our religion invited us to that, that's my point

 

[islam abduallah]

He said, linking to an article where practically every religion and non-religion on earth claims to be the fastest growing.

you need to read the article not only the title
the first line of it says "According to the Guinness Book of World Records, Islam is the world’s fastest-growing religion by number of conversions each year:"

 

[Alceste]

you need to read the article not only the title
the first line of it says "According to the Guinness Book of World Records, Islam is the world’s fastest-growing religion by number of conversions each year:"

Scroll up, my friend.

 

[Gurtej]

you need to read the article not only the title
the first line of it says "According to the Guinness Book of World Records, Islam is the world’s fastest-growing religion by number of conversions each year:"

Any day of the year , I will take quality over quantity ... Hope this helps

 

[Koldo]

I would like to bring attention to this:

All this is preamble to saying your statistics are garbage. Reporting and prosecuting rapists is one of the various tools western women have to protect themselves.

Those statistics are based on the number of rape cases reported.
Unless one is trying to make the case that it is ( nearly ) as easy and convenient to report a rape in their country as it is in the USA, there is no validity on using those statistics to argument there is less rape in their country.

This post was created just to give emphasis to that point. Not as a rebuttal to the quote.

 

[Alceste]

seems you just saying what the media is telling, indeed you are talking about another community that i don't even hear about,

indeed the Muslim women usually report the rape too quickly as she may get pregnant and then how she will justify it? so she reported it to avoid be offended as doing adultery not the opposite as you say, last year a woman recorded that ten of men had raped her, what happened the police catch them and then the judge decide to execute the ten men as per the Islamic law, and they get executed for the honor of one woman, so indeed reporting is happening here, and let's assume that we don't have too much reports, those top 20 rank countries still has a problem like UK is 24% it can't be justified that the way of dealing with this problem is obvious wrong


i'm not saying that it's purely evil in the west nor it's ideal here, i know about the attitude of the Muslims of northern African in France and Belgium

i'm just saying that we are in general are honoring the women without such documents that we don't need as our religion invited us to that, that's my point

Can you please give me a link to the story about ten men being executed for raping a woman in Egypt?

 

[Alceste]

I would like to bring attention to this:



Those statistics are based on the number of rape cases reported.
Unless one is trying to make the case that it is ( nearly ) as easy and convenient to report a rape in their country as it is in the USA, there is no validity on using those statistics to argument there is less rape in their country.

This post was created just to give emphasis to that point. Not as a rebuttal to the quote.

Exactly. What sane woman would report a rape in an Islamic country knowing she herself is likely to be prosecuted for adultery?

 

[Koldo]

It is also worth of note that in Brazil, for example, until recently the word 'rape' was used by the law strictly for vaginal intercourse between a man and a woman.

Which is why it is said on that very page: "This list[5] indicates the number of, and per capita cases of recorded rape. It does not include cases of rape which go unreported, or which are not recorded.[6] Nor does it specify whether recorded means reported, brought to trial, or convicted. Nor does it take the different definition of rape around the world into account."

 

[Breathe]

seems you are trying to hide the sun

Claims to be the fastest-growing religion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Claims.

 

[islam abduallah]

Claims.

just open the link

 

[Breathe]

just open the link

"Statistical data on conversion to and from Islam are scarce. What little information is available suggests that there is no substantial net gain or loss in the number of Muslims through conversion globally."

Thanks for this.

 

[islam abduallah]

Can you please give me a link to the story about ten men being executed for raping a woman in Egypt?

sorry i can't find it in English, but here's the link in Arabic
http://www.masress.com/alwafd/13625

i hope you can translate it in an accurate translation

 

[FearGod]

sorry i can't find it in English, but here's the link in Arabic
http://www.masress.com/alwafd/13625

i hope you can translate it in an accurate translation

Here is one in English

Death sentence final for 10 Kafr El Sheikh rapists

one more
Egypt: Death sentence for 10 gang rapists - Adnkronos Security

 

[Looncall]

seems you just saying what the media is telling, indeed you are talking about another community that i don't even hear about,

indeed the Muslim women usually report the rape too quickly as she may get pregnant and then how she will justify it? so she reported it to avoid be offended as doing adultery not the opposite as you say, last year a woman recorded that ten of men had raped her, what happened the police catch them and then the judge decide to execute the ten men as per the Islamic law, and they get executed for the honor of one woman, so indeed reporting is happening here, and let's assume that we don't have too much reports, those top 20 rank countries still has a problem like UK is 24% it can't be justified that the way of dealing with this problem is obvious wrong


i'm not saying that it's purely evil in the west nor it's ideal here, i know about the attitude of the Muslims of northern African in France and Belgium

i'm just saying that we are in general are honoring the women without such documents that we don't need as our religion invited us to that, that's my point

However, that invitation is not effective, and muslim societies are notoriously misogynistic.

Those documents seem to be desperately needed.

 

[Alceste]

Here is one in English

Death sentence final for 10 Kafr El Sheikh rapists

one more
Egypt: Death sentence for 10 gang rapists - Adnkronos Security

Ok, thank you. Just so you know, the majority of rapes are not like that. In the West, we can report anyone who forces us to have sex to the police, even our husbands, boyfriends, friends, acquaintances, teachers, preachers, etc. Violent abduction / gang rapes are very rare. In fact, I can't think of any in Canada.

So, we are comparing apples and oranges.

 

[FearGod]

However, that invitation is not effective, and muslim societies are notoriously misogynistic.

Those documents seem to be desperately needed.

misogynistic was in the jahiliyya (pre-islam)

 

[FearGod]

Ok, thank you. Just so you know, the majority of rapes are not like that. In the West, we can report anyone who forces us to have sex to the police, even our husbands, boyfriends, friends, acquaintances, teachers, preachers, etc. Violent abduction / gang rapes are very rare. In fact, I can't think of any in Canada.

So, we are comparing apples and oranges.

What is the punishment if in a case a boyfriend raped his girlfriend.

 

[islam abduallah]

Ok, thank you. Just so you know, the majority of rapes are not like that. In the West, we can report anyone who forces us to have sex to the police, even our husbands, boyfriends, friends, acquaintances, teachers, preachers, etc. Violent abduction / gang rapes are very rare. In fact, I can't think of any in Canada.

So, we are comparing apples and oranges.

just to know how we are not against women and how we are too tough against who opposes them

 

[Shadow Wolf]

What is the punishment if in a case a boyfriend raped his girlfriend.

Not sure about Canada, but where I'm at it's fortunately not as harsh as death, but unfortunately it is often less time in jail than someone caught with marijuana. We are far from perfect, and while I realize not all Muslim countries are inherently bad, but many of them are. Saudi Arabia for example only recently lifted their restrictions on women driving cars. Or in some places a woman can do very little without the permission of her husband, which is wrong.