Muslims brotherhood to put Israel-Egypt peace pact to referendum

[Shermana]

Zionist remade history as false

What history did Zionists "remade as false" and what evidence do you have to provide contrary to the "official Zionist version"? Why don't you start a new thread titled "Why the Zionist version of history is false", this is about Egypt and Israel's peace treaty and how the Muslim Brotherhood are putting it up to referendum.

as are the flimsy excuses offered here for killing Palestinians

Please explain what you consider a "flimsy excuse".

whether they are in Palestine or in Lebanon's Palestinian refugee camps

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And why are they holed up in Lebanese refugee camps instead of being integrated into the population at large again? So you're saying that Israel is ultimately not entitled to defend itself from Arab attacks? What are these "flimsy excuses"?

As for the U.N. partition of Palestine, that was a purely European and American orchestrated deal using the newly created U.N. with only 33 member states and fully controlled by the Big Five Powers sitting on the Security Council to cater to Zionist lobbying efforts and oil interest protection, Suez Canal protection, for creating another European religious colony in the Middle East.

As opposed to the other Arab states? Why didn't the Kurds get northern Iraq? Why did Lebanon get Lebanon? Why weren't the Jews allowed to have a state? Perhaps you are buying into the "Palestinian" rewrite of history in which they are somehow an independent culture and ethnicity? Do you disagree that before the 1960s the word "Palestinian" was never used, and instead it was "Southern Syrian Arab"? As for "Creating another European religious colony", what OTHER "European religious colonies" existed? Why did Israel have to fight Britain off to assure Jewish control? Why did the British stop Jewish immigration during the Holocaust? Why was the USA originally friendly to Egypt and not to Israel in the 50s? Do you even know the basic history of the time frame?

The 1948 U.N. Partition of Palestine broke the U.N.'s own Charter protecting the self-determination rights of indigenous populations.

Most Palestinians are not that indigenous, they are descendent heavily from Syrian and Egyptian Immigrants who arrived during the Zionist boom years. But of course, I imagine you will say these are "Zionist lies" or something. What about the many hundreds of thousands of Jews who lived in Arab lands from Morocco to Iraq for centuries who got expelled after 1948 and their property confiscated? Were they indigenous to those lands?

This is why Palestinians and all Arabs in the region reacted in anger at the imposition of another colonial aggressor in their midst without them ever having a political voice in the matter. No Palestinian ever voted on the matter.

Did the Jews vote on it either? They merely accepted the original plan which gave the Palestinian half of the best land. The Arabs invaded, lost, and then whined as if somehow the rules of war must change to accomodate the loser for the first time in history.

Tell me now, Zionists, how it is possible for the worldwide Jewish population in 1961 to be 91% Ashkenazim Jews vs 9% Sephardic Jews with the great majority of Israeli Jewish immigrants coming from Europe and America, to wind up with an Israeli Sephardic majority population?

You mean Mizrahi? Do you know the difference between Mizrahi and Sephadri? Apparently not. Are you even aware of the mass Jewish expulsion in Arab lands in 1948? Guess where they all went?

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ll tell you how. By telling another great big Zionist LIE.

The lie is your fact-devoid version of history quite obviously.

And you all fall for this bogus modern history

And I'll bet you never heard of the 1948 Jewish expulsions from Arab lands.

just like you fell for the bogus ancient history where the supposed Moses and Exodus and David and Solomon really existed even though Israeli archeologists themselves claim they didn't having searched for over a century now for artifacts that real historical civilizations left behind instead stories on scrolls.

There are things like the Ipuwer papyrus, but that's for another thread. And of course Muslims don't believe in things like Mohammad flying up to heaven near Jerusalem as their claim to the land. Anyways, this thread is about the Egyptian-Israeli peace treaty in jeapordy due to the Muslim brotherhood, I suggest you make a new thread titled "Zionist lies". The subject of historical Jewish authenticity has more than a few threads on this board, some even by Jews themselves.

Next you'll try to pawn off that other Zionist lunacy, that Pals are homeless wandering Arabs even though Palestinian dna is far closer to ancient Israelites

I fully agree that SOME Palestinians may have Israelite DNA, but most of them are probably descendent from Egyptian and Syrian and Turkish immigrants.

than modern Israeli Jews most of whom are descendants of Eastern European, Central Asian Khazar

I knew the Khazar comment would come sooner or later. The Khazars were destroyed by the Mongols and Russians. Very few actually converted to Judaism, only the tribal chieftains did. Very few Jews have any trace of Turkish DNA, most Ashkenazim have the same markers as the Mizrahim. This Khazar lie is easily debunked by a remote searching of the facts, but I doubt you'd bother to investigate the other side of the argument to even see what they say, you'll just call it "Zionist Lies"!

kingdom Jewish converts as a good look at any Ashkenazim dna will tell you, my own included to back up what I say

You obviously haven't bothered to look at any actual studies of Ashkenazi DNA, we are very much related to Mizrahim who have lived in Jerusalem for ages for one thing.

 

[Flankerl]

Wait a second the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics under the leadership of Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin was pressured by Zionist lobbying?

 

[Caladan]

I knew the Khazar comment would come sooner or later.

It was a matter of time before the race obsessed revisionism would be posted.
The historical facts are that Ashkenazi Jews with obvious roots in central Europe greatly outnumbered the Khazar Jews, not only that but its a historical reality that Ashkenazi Jewry in central Europe has existed centuries before the alleged mass conversion of the Khazars.
the historical turn of events was much more straightforward and less rooted in revisionistic conspiracy theories. Jewish Khazars were absorbed into a majority of Ashkenazi Jews with historical roots in central and eastern Europe. also, as you said, there are genetic markers that link Ashkenazi Jews to Sephardi and Mizrahi Jews, but do not link them to the historical Khazars.
that being said, as the resident archaeologist, I have to comment on the folly of this revisionism. personally I take great pride in the fact that the royalty and the aristocracy of one of the most impressive political powers of the time converted to Judaism. I love the way the story goes as well. the Khazar king asked the Muslim, if he were not a Muslim what would he rather be, the Muslim replied 'Jewish'. the king then asked the Christian, if he were not a Christian what would he rather be, his answer was as well, 'Jewish'. after this, the Khazar royalty and aristocracy decided to convert to Judaism.
the Khazars were a remarkable political power who single handedly halted the Caliphate's advance into Europe. Byzantium's royalty married its finest daughters with the Khazars. they were so politically potent that historians speak of a Pax Khazarica.
the fact that people claim that Jews are of a lesser race somehow because of historical link to the Khazars shows a double ignorance. one the racism itself, their agenda is based on racial obsession as if its in anyway makes the Jews look bad that they have historical links to the Khazars, and secondly they show remarkable ignorance about who the Khazar were.