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Muslims the least educated in the world?

Shuttlecraft

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Shuttlecraft posted: Well Hamas certainly are dumb clucks and made themselves look stupid in the eyes of the world for firing cheap useless rockets at Israeli men women and children, they served no useful purpose and hardly killed anybody or hit anything, they might just as well have used peashooters
I wouldn't be too quick to assume they're trying to kill large numbers of Israelis to be honest.

It could just be their primitive animal bloodlust that makes them want to kill, they knew their rockets were cheap rubbish but they got their kicks out of simply launching them in the direction of Israel
 
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lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
Premium Member
It could just be their primitive animal bloodlust that makes them want to kill, they knew their rockets were cheap rubbish but they got their kicks out of simply launching them in the direction of Israel

My guess is that there are a couple of different aspects at play.
There'll be considered action, which may very well be as much about prompting am Israeli reaction as anything.

Then there'll be a bunch of angry young men with their hands on weapons, launching them at those they perceive to be their enemy.
(pretty much the group you're referring to there)
 

Shuttlecraft

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My guess is that there are a couple of different aspects at play...

Yes I forgot to mention that the Koran puts them up to it-

[Koran 5.51] "O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people"

[Koran 9.123] "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness; and know that Allah is with those who guard against evil"
 

1robin

Christian/Baptist
Muslims had HUNDREDS of years to rule themselves. What happened to Muslim scientific thinking between say 1300 and 1800? For just one example, Muslims were busily murdering millions and millions of Hindus during that period of time - Muslims were the conquerors and oppressors, not the oppressed.

(And once again, Christians have also murdered millions and millions of people over the years, I'm not saying Christianity is any better than Islam.)

I don't think the crusades, inquisition, plus even the conquests killed millions. You would have to throw WW1 and WW2 on the Christian doorstep to get millions.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Yes I forgot to mention that the Koran puts them up to it-

[Koran 5.51] "O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people"

[Koran 9.123] "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness; and know that Allah is with those who guard against evil"

Please select one verse from the above two for discussion.

Regards
 

icehorse

......unaffiliated...... anti-dogmatist
Premium Member
Muslims the least educated in the world?

If so, what effort has been made to educate them.

Regards

Great question! The students (and the local authorities), to be willing. And a lot of modern education could seem blasphemous to conservative Muslims. For example, it turns out that you really CAN mix salt water and fresh water.
 

Shad

Veteran Member
I don't think the crusades, inquisition, plus even the conquests killed millions. You would have to throw WW1 and WW2 on the Christian doorstep to get millions.

80 years war is around the death count of WW1. Honestly it is hard to get any reliable number of deaths during wars in the past. There is a lot of collateral damage that can only be speculation
 
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Harikrish

Active Member
Sick dude. No wonder good muslims are being embarrassed globally.


Maybe your already on a jihad watch list. You act like it.

You know your IP can be traced to an exact location?
I suppose your IP cannot be traced because you live in an outhouse.
 

1robin

Christian/Baptist
80 years war is around the death count of WW1. Honestly it is hard to get any reliable number of deaths during wars in the past. There is a lot of collateral damage that can only be speculation

It is easy to lay wrongs at the feet of Christians. It is very hard to lay them at the feet of Christianity as a doctrine. How do you blame a book for Murder which makes the most famous statement about not murdering in human history? You even have to be careful with Islamic killing but with hundreds of verses demanding it, it is not as complicated. My intention was to point out the problems with crediting acts against a code to the code. Sure Christians have killed way to many people but it was almost never about Christianity. God was just an excuse to apply credibility to things that may not have had any. Even struggles like the hundred years war had protestants and Catholics on each side and was mainly about aristocratic property claims. It's a tricky thing.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member

Shad

Veteran Member
It is easy to lay wrongs at the feet of Christians. It is very hard to lay them at the feet of Christianity as a doctrine. How do you blame a book for Murder which makes the most famous statement about not murdering in human history? You even have to be careful with Islamic killing but with hundreds of verses demanding it, it is not as complicated. My intention was to point out the problems with crediting acts against a code to the code. Sure Christians have killed way to many people but it was almost never about Christianity. God was just an excuse to apply credibility to things that may not have had any. Even struggles like the hundred years war had protestants and Catholics on each side and was mainly about aristocratic property claims. It's a tricky thing.

The war was a series of wars which at times was due to Christianity fracturing away from the old Catholic dominated system backed by political divides over this conflict. Now lets grant for argument sake neither Islam nor Christianity promotes this type of wide scale conflict. Both religions and it's followers claim this position and argue for it. The real issue I believe is the political authority which was once invested into the religion. Christianity has largely confined the political power to the individual rather than the institution. However I believe in Islam it is still rooted in politics as part of the institution. Both have been used to promote violence due to human nature of accepting authority over important matters. It is the political nature of Islam many need to reform but are unwilling to do so.
 

Shuttlecraft

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Shuttlecraft posted: the Koran puts them up to it-

[Koran 5.51] "O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people"

[Koran 9.123] "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness; and know that Allah is with those who guard against evil"

Please select one verse from the above two for discussion.

What's there to discuss?
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
No wonder good muslims are being embarrassed globally

I don't know if Harikrish Muslims or not .
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it's extremist ideology to generlize ALL Muslims , individual actions or speechs
 
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