Muslims the least educated in the world?

[outhouse]

I don't know if Harikrish Muslims or not .
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it's extremist ideology to generlize ALL Muslims , individual actions or speechs

Agreed I don't know either.

 

[Harikrish]

Agreed I don't know either.

The majority of Muslims are illiterates is not a generalization. It is a statistical fact. 800 million out of the 1.4 billion Muslims are uneducated (6 out of 10 Muslims cannot read). Tragic but true.

I am a Vedantist raised in the Vedantic tradition, born a Hindu. Hinduism is a much older religion than Judaism, Christianity and Islam.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

The majority of Muslims are illiterates is not a generalization. It is a statistical fact. 800 million out of the 1.4 billion Muslims are uneducated (6 out of 10 Muslims cannot read). Tragic but true.

I am a Vedantist raised in the Vedantic tradition, born a Hindu. Hinduism is a much older religion than Judaism, Christianity and Islam.

Yeah, I posted a bunch of detailed stats on illiteracy in both the Arab and OECD worlds earlier in this thread.
Socio-economics plays a major role in that, though.

Not 100% convinced that Hinduism is MUCH older than Judaism? Happy to be proven wrong on that though.
And there are older religions in any case.

 

[Estro Felino]

I am a Vedantist raised in the Vedantic tradition, born a Hindu. Hinduism is a much older religion than Judaism, Christianity and Islam.

yeah...and above all Hindus have never bothered anybody during their millenarian history. Hindus don't try to convince people to convert to Hinduism and above all they don't think that their mission is to create a world religion. they don't try to impose their religious laws to other people.

 

[Godobeyer]

The majority of Muslims are illiterates is not a generalization. It is a statistical fact. 800 million out of the 1.4 billion Muslims are uneducated (6 out of 10 Muslims cannot read). Tragic but true.

I am a Vedantist raised in the Vedantic tradition, born a Hindu. Hinduism is a much older religion than Judaism, Christianity and Islam.

IF you lived in India .

Tell us India goverment care about education in India , to Hindu and also Muslims as big minoraty .

 

[1robin]

The majority of Muslims are illiterates is not a generalization. It is a statistical fact. 800 million out of the 1.4 billion Muslims are uneducated (6 out of 10 Muslims cannot read). Tragic but true.

I am a Vedantist raised in the Vedantic tradition, born a Hindu. Hinduism is a much older religion than Judaism, Christianity and Islam.

Not if you acknowledge the oral tradition that preceded the written Torah.

 

[1robin]

yeah...and above all Hindus have never bothered anybody during their millenarian history. Hindus don't try to convince people to convert to Hinduism and above all they don't think that their mission is to create a world religion. they don't try to impose their religious laws to other people.

Their caste system is certainly no pick nick. As horrible as the Protégées' missionary tactics were the Hindus were literally jumping into their arms because Christianity at least offered the foundation for equality.

I don't think a theologies inertness is any indication it is true or good. It is better that terrorism I guess but I see little excellence in Hinduism as I do in Christianity.

 

[icehorse]

Didn't India just hold the largest democratic election ever?

 

[Harikrish]

Didn't India just hold the largest democratic election ever?

Yes and it was a great success!! Hinduism stands apart from the three other major religions Judaism, Christianity and Islam because it was developed independently and is neither dependent on the other religions for its validation nor can it be accused of plagiarizing and compromising its intellectual integrity.

Hinduism is an esoteric religion and the goals it teaches are more transcendental that the simplistic fall from grace taught in the less sophisticated other three religions. The central message in Hinduism is the conversion of oneself and not the conversion of the world to a common set of beliefs which is why the other religions seek domination whereas Hindus are self absorbed in their own blissful existence seeking enlightenment instead of domination.

 

[1robin]

Didn't India just hold the largest democratic election ever?

Was this a contention against my claim?

 

[1robin]

Yes and it was a great success!! Hinduism stands apart from the three other major religions Judaism, Christianity and Islam because it was developed independently and is neither dependent on the other religions for its validation nor can it be accused of plagiarizing and compromising its intellectual integrity.

Hinduism is an esoteric religion and the goals it teaches are more transcendental that the simplistic fall from grace taught in the less sophisticated other three religions. The central message in Hinduism is the conversion of oneself and not the conversion of the world to a common set of beliefs which is why the other religions seek domination whereas Hindus are self absorbed in their own blissful existence seeking enlightenment instead of domination.

Even if true non of this is an argument for it being true.

If you think India is a blissful nation, I take it you have not been there. The worst genocide in human history occurred there. It was mostly Islam's fault but it was not blissful, nor was post English rule.

Also if the religion has any value I would think not exporting it to others the greatest evil possible. I also do not think India is an example of anything being perfected in any category.

 

[icehorse]

Was this a contention against my claim?

I'm no expert, but my gut reaction is that - on the scale of religions that have caused trouble, or are currently causing trouble - Hinduism is lower than the Abrahamic ones.

 

[idav]

I'm no expert, but my gut reaction is that - on the scale of religions that have caused trouble, or are currently causing trouble - Hinduism is lower than the Abrahamic ones.

Yup and Buddhism. Pretty much the Dharma religions appear less violent then the Abrahamic ones.

 

[1robin]

I'm no expert, but my gut reaction is that - on the scale of religions that have caused trouble, or are currently causing trouble - Hinduism is lower than the Abrahamic ones.

That's no fair. We are stuck with Islam in that case. I call foul. We have our own problems, sticking us with Islam is too much for any defense to rescue. Besides passivity is not an indication of truth. Truth is an exclusive category. I expect division.

 

[1robin]

Yup and Buddhism. Pretty much the Dharma religions appear less violent then the Abrahamic ones.

If you were Satan and hated God would you cause division among those you already have fooled or the ones denying your influence? If I was, the Church would be ground zero. I would let Hinduism destroy Hindu's as long as possible.

 

[Monk Of Reason]

If you were Satan and hated God would you cause division among those you already have fooled or the ones denying your influence? If I was, the Church would be ground zero. I would let Hinduism destroy Hindu's as long as possible.

If you were the one true god wouldn't your followers be the peaceful ones rather than all these satan worshipers? And if the satanically influenced eastern religions are significantly more peaceful wouldn't it make sense to follow Satan then? God doesn't seem to have his ***** together.

And what would be the best way, speaking of course if you were a totalitarian ruler who was in fact evil, to keep your followers from disbanding with a rebellion of sorts? What if Lucifer is actually a good guy trying to free everyone from an evil god but God has spread nothing but lies about Lucifer? That would make a lot of sense rather than Lucifer being just pure evil for no reason.

 

[icehorse]

That's no fair. We are stuck with Islam in that case. I call foul. We have our own problems, sticking us with Islam is too much for any defense to rescue. Besides passivity is not an indication of truth. Truth is an exclusive category. I expect division.

roflmao

 

[1robin]

If you were the one true god wouldn't your followers be the peaceful ones rather than all these satan worshipers? And if the satanically influenced eastern religions are significantly more peaceful wouldn't it make sense to follow Satan then? God doesn't seem to have his ***** together.

That is certainly a reasonable question. I usually just adopt the violence done by Christians because I hold atheism, Islam, etc.. accountable for their actions but I want to at least make these points. If the bible is true:


1. I would expect it's followers to do unprecedented things (good ones) in unprecedented numbers. I think that is true of history.
2. I would expect it to have similar woes and make similar mistakes as the rest of the world but with the exceptions in exceptional quantity mentioned above. I believe we have just that.
3. That it could not be evaluated by those that defy it. How can murder be blamed a book that forbid it? The crusaders defied the bible, they did not obey it.
4. IOW despite having many of the same ills if you find many of the greatest exceptions as well in great quantity then you have what the bible predicts and Christianity has more of the best exceptions to the rule than you will ever require.
5. That if true it would attract the opposition of a lost world and even the opposition of lost members. I expect to find the truth confronted by it's enemy and using it's own people to do so. In conjunction with this I expect it's original scriptures to be free of the same errors and evils. IOW I expect both our imperfections and moral excellence and with biblical exceptionalism and consistency. I find them all.

And what would be the best way, speaking of course if you were a totalitarian ruler who was in fact evil, to keep your followers from disbanding with a rebellion of sorts? What if Lucifer is actually a good guy trying to free everyone from an evil god but God has spread nothing but lies about Lucifer? That would make a lot of sense rather than Lucifer being just pure evil for no reason.

Then I would expect Satanists not Christians to have the better historical virtues. I expect them both to have problems (Christianity is composed of failed members) but only Christianity has the massive positive record comparatively. I see Christian hospitals, Christian hunger efforts, Christian support groups for various problems, Christian missionaries serving their congregation in every possible way, the Christian revolution of modern science, etc...... I do not see many satanic versions of them.

BTW God is defined as Omni powerful and Omni moral. So why did Satan not write the world's best selling book, full of the greatest virtues possible.

 

[1robin]

roflmao

Islam is Christianity's, Mississippi. I live in Alabama, no matter how bad we are Mississippi is always worse. I am actually joking here of course. I expect to find misdeeds in all religions. What I don't expect is the moral virtues that Christianity also has. All groups have wars but few can even get in the ballpark of Christianity's successes.

 

[idav]

If you were Satan and hated God would you cause division among those you already have fooled or the ones denying your influence? If I was, the Church would be ground zero. I would let Hinduism destroy Hindu's as long as possible.

To be fair I would love all my creations equally if i were god and I would rest assured that every human have the ability to withstand temptation by their own accord. Why should god prefer one region over another, one thoroughbred over another, that there is exactly what causes elitism and violent divisions.