My GOD will MURDER and DESTROY you! Care to convert? (for your own safety, of course)

[servant1]

I am saying that the theology you believe in does not make sense. How is quoting your religious book help here?

Bible truth always makes sense. 99% are in darkness taught by blind guides is why bible truth doesn't make sense.

 

[ChristineM]

Their is 0 sense in your post.

Compares favourably with your posts then.
You are of course entitled to your beliefs no matter how strange i think they are.
Just as i and everyone else us entitled to theirs.
I was a Christian and was driven out of the church by good Christians. Since then i have read the bible (3 different versions actually) and it's all there, the hatred of different, kill the witches, murder those who don't agree with you (your god), beat the slaves, rape the women, steal the land. All condoned by your god belief. So pardon ne if i think your beliefs are strange to say the least.

 

[Sgt. Pepper]

Compares favourably with your posts then.
You are of course entitled to your beliefs no matter how strange i think they are.
Just as i and everyone else us entitled to theirs.
I was a Christian and was driven out of the church by good Christians. Since then i have read the bible (3 different versions actually) and it's all there, the hatred of different, kill the witches, murder those who don't agree with you (your god), beat the slaves, rape the women, steal the land. All condoned by your god belief. So pardon ne if i think your beliefs are strange to say the least.

I used to sincerely believe in God, and I would attempt to justify all the atrocities and violence that I read about in the Bible when I was a devout Christian. I also tried to ignore my conscience in my attempts to continue believing that the Bible was God's Word, infallible and inerrant. I would willfully disregard all of the discrepancies I found in the Bible, as well as the fact that Christians are deeply divided over its proper interpretation. However, my beliefs about the Bible shifted dramatically as I studied it intensively (along with Christian theology) throughout my evangelistic training and while aiding my nephew in his studies to become an ordained pastor. I essentially studied my way out of believing in the Bible, as well as believing in God, Jesus, and Christianity.

 

[oldbadger]

My GOD will MURDER MAIM DESTROY HURT TORTURE (and) BURN you FOREVER (if you don’t convert)! Care to convert? It’s the only way you’ll be okay.

It’s a heck of a pick up line. This past week it’s been tried a couple times on me here at RF, albeit less dramatically. It didn’t work though, surprisingly enough.

I think I’ll be alright. I put enough hours in as a Christian, so if the big fella is real after all he just gotta look at my childhood when I was a groupie for him. But hell and a vengeful Jehovah ain’t real. And even if they are real, I don’t believe it so your threats are akin to a fly buzzing annoyingly around me.

PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT:
Stop threatening people with hell and god’s wrath. It’s a huge turn off. Please.

Well if you accept my 'religion' you'll die one day and then slowly decay (or drift around wherever you got spread) as crawly things creep around and chew on what's left of you.

Or you could join some other bloomin' religion so that when you die beautiful maidens will serve your every wish and desire....eternally.

My granny always said I'd be a rubbish salesman.

 

[ChristineM]

I used to sincerely believe in God, and I would attempt to justify all the atrocities and violence that I read about in the Bible when I was a devout Christian. I also tried to ignore my conscience in my attempts to continue believing that the Bible was God's Word, infallible and inerrant. I would willfully disregard all of the discrepancies I found in the Bible, as well as the fact that Christians are deeply divided over its proper interpretation. However, my beliefs about the Bible shifted dramatically as I studied it intensively (along with Christian theology) throughout my evangelistic training and while aiding my nephew in his studies to become an ordained pastor. I essentially studied my way out of believing in the Bible, as well as believing in God, Jesus, and Christianity.

Yup, the bible can do that.

How are you? Not seen you on RF for a while.

 

[oldbadger]

God has warned all what is coming.

No God has warned anything.
You could be thinking of a nutter who lived on penal colony isle off Ephesia and wrote Revelation. He probably enjoyed the hallucinogenic effects of a wild mushroom that grows on Pentos?

But the idea of Jesus flying around up in the clouds with a sword that flicks out of his mouth to strike down folks like me.......? ......nah!

 

[Sgt. Pepper]

Yup, the bible can do that.

How are you? Not seen you on RF for a while.

I'm doing okay. Thanks. I hope you are well.

 

[Quintessence]

There's an irony in that the gods of polytheistic religions are can be literal embodiments of death, disease, and destruction - you know, stuff that can and will actively murder and destroy you and do just that on a routine basis - but polytheistic religions don't proselytize. Perhaps because if humans are stupid enough to ignore the very real power of the gods, it doesn't matter what is "believed" about them when it comes to their very real world impact. Sure, go ahead and "lack belief" or "disbelieve" in that Storm Spirit that is rumbling through your city causing the meteorologists to flare of the tornado warning sirens. It's not gonna go well if you decide not to take shelter and the gods feel your particular house is in the way of them doing what they do.

 

[sayak83]

Bible truth always makes sense. 99% are in darkness taught by blind guides is why bible truth doesn't make sense.

The problem here is not whether Christian claims are true or not, but the way you are replying.
For any claim X, I can dismiss all criticism of it in the way you did.
Example
Racism always makes sense. 99% are in darkness taught by blind guides is why the truth of Racism does not make sense .
What this tells me is that you have not properly thought about the reasons and justifications for your beliefs, and have not done a proper reflective analysis on why you believe in the Bible rather than say, Marxism or Zen Buddhism.Then how can you hope to convince others of the truthfulness if your worldview?

 

[idea]

I agree ... That's the works part associated with faith that makes faith functional. Without works, faith is dead. That's also a hope associated term. There's substance in it and evidence, which builds and develops real faith, not the dead kind that has no works. Grace? We get through it and sometimes against the odds. Other times we don't get through it and that's part of life, too. This is also part of Christian life. We work, we have faith, we live our lives according to certain principles and premises, and we still don't know for certain how things will turn out. We simply acknowledge that it's not entirely up to us, that there's a much larger will at play than our own. Look a t Jesus... he was treated unjustly despite all his good works. It can be fearful. something you deny us. It can be disheartening. Something else you deny us. It can be rewarding, but that reward isn't expected in disobedience, which again ... you deny us in your misunderstanding about what it means to be Christian. No, you see us as you want to see us...not as we are. That's your choice and your active work association with us. Better relationships? Mirrors are nice sometimes, other times they're about as good as grasping hot coals.

I've lived among and with various different Christian sects for a lifetime. My experience shapes my views.

God helps those who help themselves = God doesn't help anyone, have to help yourself.

Faith in yourself.
Realistic hope based on good examples and repeating past successes.

Luck? Grace? Sometimes you luck out, but usually research and work.

Laws of nature - no will, no sentient being, just the laws of nature under it all.

 

[Balthazzar]

I've lived among and with various different Christian sects for a lifetime. My experience shapes my views.

As does my own.

God helps those who help themselves = God doesn't help anyone, have to help yourself.

Untrue, and abundantly so depending on your understanding of God.

Faith in yourself.
Realistic hope based on good examples and repeating past successes.

Agreed

Luck? Grace? Sometimes you luck out, but usually research and work.

All applicable, but then luck is one of those terms I find oddly, if not profoundly connected to our choices.

Laws of nature - no will, no sentient being, just the laws of nature under it all.

What's the difference? It's all "will" per your own view of what works. I recognize also a larger will than my own that includes everyone else.

 

[I Am Hugh]

My GOD will MURDER MAIM DESTROY HURT TORTURE (and) BURN you FOREVER (if you don’t convert)! Care to convert? It’s the only way you’ll be okay.

First of all, if that were the case then converting would be the wise way in which being tortured forever could be avoided. Second of all you have to establish evidence that that is the case.

 

[I Am Hugh]

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According to who? Steve Wells? He's an idiot. Secondly, according to the more reliable source who would ever have died or been destroyed, including Satan, if it were not for Satan himself. No one. Ever.

It's nonsense.

 

[ChristineM]

According to who? Steve Wells? He's an idiot. Secondly, according to the more reliable source who would ever have died or been destroyed, including Satan, if it were not for Satan himself. No one. Ever.

It's nonsense.

Have you read the bible and counted?

The 10 satan killed were at gods command also.

Satan, according to the bible killed no one of his own volition.

 

[I Am Hugh]

Have you read the bible and counted?

The 10 satan killed were at gods command also.

Satan, according to the bible killed no one of his own volition.

Adam was created to live forever, the spirit creatures were as well, what caused that to change?

 

[ChristineM]

Adam was created to live forever, the spirit creatures were as well, what caused that to change?

Don't change the subject

But as i remember it, it was a talking snake

 

[I Am Hugh]

Don't change the subject

It is the subject.

But as i remember it, it was a talking snake

According to who? According to the Bible Eve thought it was a talking snake, but it also points out that she was deceived. By whom and why was she deceived?

 

[ChristineM]

It is the subject.



According to who? According to the Bible Eve thought it was a talking snake, but it also points out that she was deceived. By whom and why was she deceived?

According to the bible.

The snake, one of the creatures god made. Also depicted as Lilith in some art

However it was not the snake who banished them, that was the forgiving god, thus removing the living forever thing

 

[I Am Hugh]

According to the bible.

The snake, one of the creatures god made. Also depicted as Lilith in some art

However it was not the snake who banished them, that was the forgiving god, thus removing the living forever thing

What creature is alleged that God didn't make? Lilith was a nighjar. The snake is innocent. Satan was the spirit being, also created by God, who deceived Eve into thinking it was a snake that talked to her. He did that, causing the death of every living person who ever lived on earth. The forgiving God will be the salvation of those who wish for it. The rest he will destroy, but not literally torture in fire. Those have only themselves to blame. The choice is theirs.

 

[ChristineM]

What creature is alleged that God didn't make? Lilith was a nighjar. The snake is innocent. Satan was the spirit being, also created by God, who deceived Eve into thinking it was a snake that talked to her. He did that, causing the death of every living person who ever lived on earth. The forgiving God will be the salvation of those who wish for it. The rest he will destroy, but not literally torture in fire. Those have only themselves to blame. The choice is theirs.

I don't care about apologetics and personal interpretation, only what is written

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