Myth: People are Fleeing California

[Shadow Wolf]

we lost representation because our population increased but not as much as other states, we definitely didn't go down from the last census

It didn't say we went down. We didn't, and the population is still expected to keep growing. However, we did have a net loss in migration. That's not Fox or RW media, that is what actually happened.
But, ultimately, it's still not an unusually high rate, and despite the myth of an exodus from California persisting for years it's just not true. As the article I mentioned in the OP points out--and my own encounters and interactions with all sorts of people in the area--a great deal of the movement in California is people leaving LA and the San Francisco and leaving for other areas of the state such as the San Joaquin Valley. At least from Fresno down to Bakersfield and many cities in between are seeing a lot of people from those two places moving here.
And Bakersfield it's very easy to meet people who moved there from all the America and the world. So people still definitely very much want to move here. The RW just doesn't want to let go of this myth they have been clinging to for years now.

 

[Lyndon]

i'm digging on the $1200 in stimulus checks I've gotten and am getting from Our Governor, don't know of any other state that did that, and the back rent payments for poor californians so they don't get evicted, that's the kind of socialism in action I like to see, that and the soon to be $15 min wage, I can't think of any good reason to leave Cali, But really our Democratically controlled government really needs to get down and introduce a medi-cal for all Californians,, we could do it, I think one other state already has, New Hampshire or something

my business took a real hit because of Covid and the stimulus checks don't make up the difference, but they do help

 

[Revoltingest]

It didn't say we went down. We didn't, and the population is still expected to keep growing. However, we did have a net loss in migration. That's not Fox or RW media, that is what actually happened.
But, ultimately, it's still not an unusually high rate, and despite the myth of an exodus from California persisting for years it's just not true. As the article I mentioned in the OP points out--and my own encounters and interactions with all sorts of people in the area--a great deal of the movement in California is people leaving LA and the San Francisco and leaving for other areas of the state such as the San Joaquin Valley. At least from Fresno down to Bakersfield and many cities in between are seeing a lot of people from those two places moving here.
And Bakersfield it's very easy to meet people who moved there from all the America and the world. So people still definitely very much want to move here. The RW just doesn't want to let go of this myth they have been clinging to for years now.

Your town always reminds me of this exchange from Zoro,The Gay Blade (1981)...
[The landowners meet to elect a new Alcalde.]
Captain Esteban: Caballeros! I believe you all know each other?
Don Diego: Don Diego from San Fernando.
Don Francisco: Don Francisco from San Jose.
Don Fernando: Don Fernando from San Diego.
Don Jose: Don Jose from San Bernardino.
Luis Obispo: Luis Obispo from Bakersfield.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Your town always reminds me of this exchange from Zoro,The Gay Blade (1981)...
[The landowners meet to elect a new Alcalde.]
Captain Esteban: Caballeros! I believe you all know each other?
Don Diego: Don Diego from San Fernando.
Don Francisco: Don Francisco from San Jose.
Don Fernando: Don Fernando from San Diego.
Don Jose: Don Jose from San Bernardino.
Luis Obispo: Luis Obispo from Bakersfield.

It's like Fresno with one part that has all these streets with Spanish names, and then all of a sudden in the middle is Paul.

 

[InChrist]

A lot of those school vouchers go to religious schools. That's what many on the Left--and even some of the Right--object to. Along with the fact it leaves most students behind. That's not acceptable.
It's the Right who is trying to keep kids stuck where they are while only letting a few move on ahead.

I don’t think so..

“The Washington Post published a staff editorial Thursday asking "Why are unions and Democrats so opposed to giving poor children a choice in schooling?"

The editorial noted that for 17 years the D.C. Opportunity Scholarship Program has offered the chance for thousands of poor kids in the district to attend schools of their choice — including private schools — and to at least have a chance of making it to college.

But for much of those nearly two decades, "the program has been in the crosshairs of unions and other opponents of private school vouchers," the paper said.

Now, the Post continued, with Democrats running the House of Representatives and President Joe Biden in the White House "quietly laying the groundwork to kill off this worthy program," the unions just might get their wish. ”
Liberal newspaper wants to know: 'Why are unions and Democrats so opposed to giving poor children a choice in schooling?'

 

[Aštra’el]

People are leaving California, and I see more and more Californians relocating to Texas all the time. I don’t blame them. They are welcome here, as long as they aren’t behaving like feral antifas or deranged blm rioters. Otherwise they might have a rough time adjusting to the real world. If they obey the law, are respectful towards others and are willing to work for what they have, it can be a great place to build a life, no matter how far gone they might have been politically.

 

[Revoltingest]

I don’t think so..

“The Washington Post published a staff editorial Thursday asking "Why are unions and Democrats so opposed to giving poor children a choice in schooling?"

The editorial noted that for 17 years the D.C. Opportunity Scholarship Program has offered the chance for thousands of poor kids in the district to attend schools of their choice — including private schools — and to at least have a chance of making it to college.

But for much of those nearly two decades, "the program has been in the crosshairs of unions and other opponents of private school vouchers," the paper said.

Now, the Post continued, with Democrats running the House of Representatives and President Joe Biden in the White House "quietly laying the groundwork to kill off this worthy program," the unions just might get their wish. ”
Liberal newspaper wants to know: 'Why are unions and Democrats so opposed to giving poor children a choice in schooling?'

Coming from Wa Po, this is unexpected.

 

[InChrist]

Coming Wa Po, this is unexpected.

Yeah, it certainly is.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I don’t think so..

Yeah, they don't really give a choice to all students. Transportation isn't provided. Acceptance is not guaranteed. Spots are limited.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

They are welcome here, as long as they aren’t behaving like feral antifas or deranged blm rioters. Otherwise they might have a rough time adjusting to the real world. If they obey the law, are respectful towards others and are willing to work for what they have, it can be a great place to build a life, no matter how far gone they might have been politically.

What do you think we're like here?
And, by the way, there's A LOT of Texans here. I suppose it's fair to say they're welcome so long as they don't act like Bible thumping bigots who hate immigrants and queers.

 

[Twilight Hue]

People are leaving California, and I see more and more Californians relocating to Texas all the time. I don’t blame them. They are welcome here, as long as they aren’t behaving like feral antifas or deranged blm rioters. Otherwise they might have a rough time adjusting to the real world. If they obey the law, are respectful towards others and are willing to work for what they have, it can be a great place to build a life, no matter how far gone they might have been politically.

Yea. Just don't bring California with them. It's worth reminding what they are running away from.

 

[Revoltingest]

I suppose it's fair to say they're welcome so long as they don't act like Bible thumping bigots who hate immigrants and queers.

I met native native Californistanians like that when I lived there.

 

[Twilight Hue]

I met native native Californistanians like that when I lived there.

No surprise there. Look at all the major megachurches in California begging for those ever popular love gifts in exchange for God's blessings.

Miss the Crystal Cathedral though, I wonder if the Catholics still have it?

 

[Revoltingest]

No surprise there. Look at all the major megachurches in California begging for those ever popular love gifts in exchange for God's blessings.

Miss the Crystal Cathedral though, I wonder if the Catholics still have it?

Aye, it's not the land of universal tolerance that its fans claim.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I met native native Californistanians like that when I lived there.

That is definitely missing the context of what I was replying to.

 

[Revoltingest]

That is definitely missing the context of what I was replying to.

Nope.
Relevant.

 

[Revoltingest]

And Bakersfield it's very easy to meet people who moved there from all the America and the world. So people still definitely very much want to move here. The RW just doesn't want to let go of this myth they have been clinging to for years now.

I'm a big fan of people continuing to move to CA.
Those who do are exactly the kind of people who
belong there. And it keeps prices lower elsewhere.

Meanwhile, in the news...
NBC crew robbed in Oakland

 

[anna.]

People are leaving California, and I see more and more Californians relocating to Texas all the time. I don’t blame them. They are welcome here, as long as they aren’t behaving like feral antifas or deranged blm rioters. Otherwise they might have a rough time adjusting to the real world. If they obey the law, are respectful towards others and are willing to work for what they have, it can be a great place to build a life, no matter how far gone they might have been politically.

Census data shows that Orange County gained population from 2010 to 2020, as did most California counties.

People come, people go. California is a great state. I was born here, and I'll die here.

 

[anna.]

No surprise there. Look at all the major megachurches in California begging for those ever popular love gifts in exchange for God's blessings.

You think there aren't megachurches anywhere else? The problem lies with the megachurches, not their location.

 

[anna.]

Liberal newspaper wants to know: 'Why are unions and Democrats so opposed to giving poor children a choice in schooling?'

First, I don't have anything against editorials, I love a good editorial, but editorials are often written by the privileged in their ivory towers, and sometimes it shows. In this case, I have to wonder if any of the editorial board attended an inner city school or a disadvantaged school with a severe lack of funding.

Next, I've learned a fair bit from reading the comments under WaPo articles and editorials. If you shift sorting to newest, to oldest, to most replied and to most liked, you get an interesting cross-section if there a too many comments to read all of them.

There are some very good reasons why people oppose giving religious/secular charter schools taxpayer money. Some of them are given by people who work within the school system. Here's one:

Truly, you have no idea why? I'll try to help. I taught in a middle school in Washington Heights in NYC for 20 years. There were four academies within the same school. The school went from attempting, using a progressive education model, to give each student the best education possible to what was essentially an intense form of tracking in a new guise. The two primary factors were the increased emphasis upon standardized testing, which greatly altered the manner of teaching, often in a detrimental way, and the shift to charter schools. A change was made so that one academy was able, essentially, to select their students, turning it, for all practical purposes, into a charter school. Within a few years it had most of the best students, many of the best teachers, a partnership with City College, funding from Bill Gates, and a longer day. Did the students in that academy benefit? No doubt! However, as the better students were siphoned off, along with the better new teachers, the other three academies declined, one finally being closed. And unlike the 'charter' academy, none of the other three received ANY of the additional supports. This process, by and large, is replicated across school systems as charters expand. So if you are not aware of why teachers and their unions oppose charters, you haven't been listening. My question is: why not?