Myth: People are Fleeing California

[Revoltingest]

Perhaps you could make it clear that you're just making things up next time.

If you can make things up (ie, express opinions),
then fair is fair...I will (express opinions) too.

 

[Jose Fly]

If you can make things up (ie, express opinions),
then fair is fair...I will (express opinions) too.

When I'm just making things up, I try and make that clear by saying something like "Just speculating here...". You should do the same.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

But you have it xxx backwards, poverty is largely promoted by right wing policies, left wing policies involve taxing the rich to give more support to the poor and middle class, the left wing policies in California are driving out rich Republicans, not poor people.

Why does the middle class need the rich taxed to support them? Are they on welfare, too? If they are, they're not middle class.

 

[Revoltingest]

When I'm just making things up, I try and make that clear by saying something like "Just speculating here...". You should do the same.

Perhaps you could find the post wherein
I was less than clear about musing.

BTW, I recommend less stridency about having The
Truth. There is room for reasonable people to disagree.

 

[Jose Fly]

Perhaps you could find the post wherein
I was less than clear about musing.

BTW, I recommend less stridency about having The
Truth. There is room for reasonable people to disagree.

Okay then.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

The air quality is terrible in the Central Valley, besides so much of the valley is trashed it looks like a third world country. I can’t imagine wanting to move there.

The only parts I've seen that look third world are either very small towns out in the middle of nowhere that are so small they are tiny by MidWest standards, and some parts of Oildale.
Other than that we have hot springs, mansions, lots of event venues, some very nice country clubs, excellent dining options, and the cost of living is way cheaper than LA or the Bay Area.
But, yeah. Lots of my conversations with people who have been for awhile include how this chunk of town and all of this and that was nothing but orchards 20 years ago. The air quality, though still bad, has improved a good deal.

 

[Wildswanderer]

California would be a great place to live, no doubt, if it weren't for the fact that there's way too many people there already.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

It is a third world. These people are just pushed to the side for the wealthy elites of whom this illustrious 'economy' benefits.

Where?

 

[Revoltingest]

The only parts I've seen that look third world are either very small towns out in the middle of nowhere that are so small they are tiny by MidWest standards, and some parts of Oildale.
Other than that we have hot springs, mansions, lots of event venues, some very nice country clubs, excellent dining options, and the cost of living is way cheaper than LA or the Bay Area.
But, yeah. Lots of my conversations with people who have been for awhile include how this chunk of town and all of this and that was nothing but orchards 20 years ago. The air quality, though still bad, has improved a good deal.

A problem in CA is that the mansions are other people's.
To aspire to owning one requires far more money than
necessary elsewhere. My compound would be impossible
for me to own in your state. And I'd never get enuf water
for my landscaping. CA is just not for me. But it suits you.
We are each where we belong.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

A problem in CA is that the mansions are other people's.
To aspire to owning one requires far more money than
necessary elsewhere. My compound would be impossible
for me to own in your state. And I'd never get enuf water
for my landscaping. CA is just not for me. But it suits you.
We are each where we belong.

If I have to hire someone to clean my home it's too big. So no mansions for me anyways. (I'd rather have a Porsche I can only drive on racetracks).

 

[InChrist]

So the title was false.

No, maybe you need to re- read the article. It’s the leftist, woke policies that hinder educational and economic opportunities for minorities.

“California’s failure to improve conditions for Latinos and blacks was evident even before the lockdowns and recent unrest. What the state’s minorities need is not less policing, or systematic looting of upscale neighborhoods, or steps to reimpose affirmative action, or kneeling politicians — they need policies that empower working-class citizens of all races to ascend into the middle class.”

California’s ‘Woke’ Revolution Is Driving Out Blacks and Hispanics | Manhattan Institute

 

[Jose Fly]

No, maybe you need to re- read the article. It’s the leftist, woke policies that hinder educational and economic opportunities for minorities.

“California’s failure to improve conditions for Latinos and blacks was evident even before the lockdowns and recent unrest. What the state’s minorities need is not less policing, or systematic looting of upscale neighborhoods, or steps to reimpose affirmative action, or kneeling politicians — they need policies that empower working-class citizens of all races to ascend into the middle class.”

California’s ‘Woke’ Revolution Is Driving Out Blacks and Hispanics | Manhattan Institute

LOL....seriously dude?

 

[Lyndon]

Right wing philosophies are so removed from reality, its scary!

 

[InChrist]

But you have it xxx backwards, poverty is largely promoted by right wing policies, left wing policies involve taxing the rich to give more support to the poor and middle class, the left wing policies in California are driving out rich Republicans, not poor people.

I don’t believe so. The leftist policies have stifled educational and economic opportunities for minorities, destroying families, keeping them enslaved to government handouts and trapped in lousy schools and crime ridden neighborhoods.

Star Parker: The Costs of Biden’s Big Government - Black Community News

 

[Lyndon]

Government handouts like unemployment, stimulus checks, rent assistance during the pandemic, disabilty payments, Ive got new for you, most of the people getting those are white.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I saw another article awhile ago where they made the case that many of the people leaving CA are actually white conservatives by showing that as more Californians moved to states like MT and ID, they become more conservative/Republican. IOW, it seems to be a "white flight" phenomenon.

Wouldn't surprise me. And good riddance. It seems a more diverse society makes it easier to way more people than where it's predominately and heavily and mostly white bread Conservatives who would think it's "basically Mexico" here.

 

[InChrist]

LOL....seriously dude?

Seriously...

“But the reason slavery and racism are terrible things is that every human being must live with dignity and in freedom.

How can we arrive to the conclusion that the remedy and antidote to slavery and racism is putting all Americans on the government plantation?

Not only is it immoral, but it doesn’t work. Government is supposed to be about protecting, not confiscating, our life, liberty and property.

If we want every child in America, of every background, to realize his or her potential, let’s strive for their dignity by making sure they grow up in a free country.”

Star Parker: The Costs of Biden’s Big Government - Black Community News

 

[Left Coast]

I don’t believe so. The leftist policies have stifled educational and economic opportunities for minorities, destroying families, keeping them enslaved to government handouts and trapped in lousy schools and crime ridden neighborhoods.

Which policies, specifically?

 

[Lyndon]

Which policies, specifically?

Well I think the new $15/hr min wage in California is a big problem for poor people, I mean who would want earn that much for working at Mc Donalds when they can move to Alabama and get $7.25

 

[metis]

Turns out it's still not true that people are fleeing California in droves.

California exodus is just a myth, UC research finds

Oh, you mean what they say on Fox was wrong??? Oh, how could that be as Trump supports them, and we know how intelligent and truthful he is???