Negotiators release $118 billion border bill as GOP leaders call it dead in the House

[SkepticThinker]

I'd say the ones who need to be swept from this congress are the ones who are violating the Constitution through clear dereliction of duty, and complete disregard for the Safety and Security of the American public and that would be the individuals responsible in the People's Democrat Party.

So, the Republicans, then.

 

[Revoltingest]

Trump ordered Republicans to oppose the
bill because this serves his political needs.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

All one has to do is take a look at the Texas governor's strategy that's actually working now and then ask the question why isn't Biden doing that for the rest of the country?

Are you seriously suggesting that Biden start shipping migrants from "the rest of the country" to Texas?

 

[tytlyf]

The bill is dead because Republicans have already admitted they don't want the border fixed. Party above country for the Republican party.
Vote them all out! Republicans are a threat to democracy and the country as a whole

 

[JIMMY12345]

Negotiators release $118 billion border bill as GOP leaders call it dead in the House​

• Just over $20 billion for border provision, including expansions to existing policies and new policies. That includes $650 million for the border wall, approximately $4 billion to hire new asylum officers and additional funds to provide counsel for unaccompanied children.
• $60.06 in security aid for Ukraine.
• $14.1 billion in aid for Israel.
• $10 billion in humanitarian assistance for civilians in Gaza, the West Bank, Ukraine, and "other populations caught in conflict zones."
• $2.33 billion for refugees from the war in Ukraine.
• $4.83 billion for allies to "deter aggression by the Chinese government" in the Indo-Pacific region.

The proposal installs several tools to address the border, including: requiring the president shut down the border if the numbers of migrants hits a specific threshold; adjusting the rules for who qualifies for asylum; expediting the process for deciding asylum claims; and allowing migrants authorization to work while awaiting adjudication of their asylum claim.
...
She clarified that there would be a mandated border shutdown when migrant traffic reaches 5,000 "approaches" per day, the president would have the option to institute a shutdown at earlier points.

Sinema told reporters on a call Sunday that the new provisions would have shut down the border every single day this year.

"Every single day this calendar year has been over that 4,000 threshold, and many of the days have been over the 5,000 threshold," Sinema said. "If this law were already in effect, the border would have been closed every single day this year."

Thanks or this.Please can someshed light why it is being blocked?.
One reason is immigration is just a tool to beat Biden over the head.When he comes up with solutions that should make Democrats and Republicans happy.There is a walk away .It would get BIDEN to many votes.Trump needs immigration on the voter agenda for a win.

As Ann Coulter said .Trump really does not care about Immigration except as an election tool.Trump probably also thinks the extreme right wing are a big bunch of idiots (privately).That's the genius of Trump.He IS a marketing genius.He goes up to the left,the right,LGBT,anti LGBT.
So many votes-He will win 2024!

 

[Twilight Hue]

Are you seriously suggesting that Biden start shipping migrants from "the rest of the country" to Texas?

No. I'm just pointing out the numbers from once overrun areas that had since dwindled since Texas itself reinforced those areas, that Biden has flatly refused to protect.

 

[Twilight Hue]

So now they get to own the border problem they've been complaining about endlessly. They now support "open borders."


You can't eat your cake and have it too.

No. Texas is so far doing an outstanding job on border security since they themselves took on what the Biden regime willfully and lawlessly refuses to do.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Thanks or this.Please can someshed light why it is being blocked?.
One reason is immigration is just a tool to beat Biden over the head.When he comes up with solutions that should make Democrats and Republicans happy.There is a walk away .It would get BIDEN to many votes.Trump needs immigration on the voter agenda for a win.

As Ann Coulter said .Trump really does not care about Immigration except as an election tool.Trump probably also thinks the extreme right wing are a big bunch of idiots (privately).That's the genius of Trump.He IS a marketing genius.He goes up to the left,the right,LGBT,anti LGBT.
So many votes-He will win 2024!

It's being blocked because none of the provisions directly address the immediate crisis. All they do is just enable the crossings to continue and increases incentives for the invasion to continue from my understanding.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

No. I'm just pointing out the numbers from once overrun areas that had since dwindled since Texas itself reinforced those areas ...

Reinforced? How wonderful ...

My country tis of thee
razor wire and bigotry,
of thee I sing.​

 

[Twilight Hue]

Reinforced? How wonderful ...

My country tis of thee
razor wire and bigotry,
of thee I sing.​

You know, I tend to think that this would never have happened to the extent that it has if the laws were followed and enforced that are already on the books.

Additionally, I might give potential illegals physically in areas where they're not supposed to be, a little bit more credit in regards to their mental capacity that they are a bit more smarter whenever they see razor wire in their field of vision to have the common sense to garner as to why the reason that it's there in the first place , and the common sense not to play with it.

 

[Twilight Hue]

It was the Republicans in the house that wanted Ukrainian aid tied to this bill, they demanded it. They can't demand something and then reject the bill because they got what they demanded.

I still support vanilla bills. Earmarks and riders ought to be striken out of bills permanently.

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

Negotiators release $118 billion border bill as GOP leaders call it dead in the House​

• Just over $20 billion for border provision, including expansions to existing policies and new policies. That includes $650 million for the border wall, approximately $4 billion to hire new asylum officers and additional funds to provide counsel for unaccompanied children.
• $60.06 in security aid for Ukraine.
• $14.1 billion in aid for Israel.
• $10 billion in humanitarian assistance for civilians in Gaza, the West Bank, Ukraine, and "other populations caught in conflict zones."
• $2.33 billion for refugees from the war in Ukraine.
• $4.83 billion for allies to "deter aggression by the Chinese government" in the Indo-Pacific region.

The proposal installs several tools to address the border, including: requiring the president shut down the border if the numbers of migrants hits a specific threshold; adjusting the rules for who qualifies for asylum; expediting the process for deciding asylum claims; and allowing migrants authorization to work while awaiting adjudication of their asylum claim.
...
She clarified that there would be a mandated border shutdown when migrant traffic reaches 5,000 "approaches" per day, the president would have the option to institute a shutdown at earlier points.

Sinema told reporters on a call Sunday that the new provisions would have shut down the border every single day this year.

"Every single day this calendar year has been over that 4,000 threshold, and many of the days have been over the 5,000 threshold," Sinema said. "If this law were already in effect, the border would have been closed every single day this year."

Biden has the authority and money to "shut down" the order today. He does not need this bill. The bill calls for the border to be "shut down" if a certain amount of illegal migrants cross the border for consecutive days. If this is the case then why can't the border be "shut down" today?

Also,
Why did Biden reverse Trump's executive orders that helped secure the border the first week in office?
Why aren't the existing laws being implemented?
Why did Biden and Mayorkas say there was no problem for 3 years to all of a sudden say there has been a problem for a decade and blame it on the republicans?
Why is there money for Ukraine etc. in a US border security bill?
Why is Biden fighting with Texas to not secure the border?

The sad reason the dems can blame this on the republicans after lying about it for 3 years is that the media is an appendage of the democrat party and the dem followers don't think about what they are being told.

 

[fantome profane]

I still support vanilla bills. Earmarks and riders ought to be striken out of bills permanently.

And I support vanilla ice cream with sprinkles. But we don't always get everything we want. Grow up.

 

[sun rise]

What opponents of the bill ignore is the mandate that Biden take action at a certain point. People whine he won't. Well, if he does not then the Republican party has a built-in "he promised and failed" commercial.

As far as the bill itself being a mess, there's nothing new in how Congress works. People could say "it's a mess but we'll offer amendments to fix it and if it's not fixed vote against it." That would be smart both from a governing perspective and politically.

As it is, Biden has a built-in campaign commerical "I tried to fix it but they would not consider it".

So the right is being stupid tactically and politically if nothing else.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Biden has the authority and money to "shut down" the order today. He does not need this bill. The bill calls for the border to be "shut down" if a certain amount of illegal migrants cross the border for consecutive days. If this is the case then why can't the border be "shut down" today?

Also,
Why did Biden reverse Trump's executive orders that helped secure the border the first week in office?
Why aren't the existing laws being implemented?
Why did Biden and Mayorkas say there was no problem for 3 years to all of a sudden say there has been a problem for a decade and blame it on the republicans?
Why is there money for Ukraine etc. in a US border security bill?
Why is Biden fighting with Texas to not secure the border?

The sad reason the dems can blame this on the republicans after lying about it for 3 years is that the media is an appendage of the democrat party and the dem followers don't think about what they are being told.

We both know the reason for that , and that's because the people's Democrat party doesn't like or respect the Constitution, they want to rebuild America in their own political image and one of the means to an end , aside from trying to get rid of their political opponents and getting as many foreigners in here as possible, and using them as a new political base to build up a voting population through the means of naturalization through anchor babies and keeping them dependent and reliant on the people's Democrat party.

We see time and time again where they will actively counter any attempts to close the border , that fact alone should be the red flag, demonstrated by their actions alone which speaks volumes as to where their real priorities are,, and it's not with this country whatsoever.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

We both know the reason for that , and that's because the people's Democrat party doesn't like or respect the Constitution

Which part of the Constitution, specifically?

 

[McBell]

All one has to do is take a look at the Texas governor's strategy that's actually working now and then ask the question why isn't Biden doing that for the rest of the country?

Make up your mind.
Either
Gov Abbotts strategy is working
OR
There are thousands crossing the border every day.

 

[McBell]

Yes because the border has been sabotaged by Biden since day one when he started ripping down Trump's border policies that were working.

Did you even bother to read the article you replied to?
If you did, your dishonesty is rather disgusting.
If you didn't, then you are merely leaking ignorance out your backside and there is no need to even bother with you.

So which is it?

 

[ImmortalFlame]

It's pretty hilarious to see posters on this forum unironically accusing Biden of not being authoritarian enough for them.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Did you even bother to read the article you replied to?
If you did, your dishonesty is rather disgusting.
If you didn't, then you are merely leaking ignorance out your backside and there is no need to even bother with you.

So which is it?

I stay with the facts. I actually don't care what you think of it. Go away then.