metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
Who is the "they"?
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New Jan 6th video of them constructing the hangman's gallows.
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Unfettered
A striving disciple of Jesus Christ
The people who built the gallows art.
Guitar's Cry
Disciple of Pan
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
Can you link us to where they said that? And why did you choose the word "art" above?
Laniakea
Not of this world
It wasn't exactly violent. Flagpoles and pepperspray was about all that was used. Oh yeah, and a single bullet fired by a cop.
You should take a look at what happens in places like Haiti to see what real violence against a government looks like. Haitians no doubt laugh at what happened on January 6th when people refer to that as "violent" and "democracy nearly overthrown".
Unfettered
A striving disciple of Jesus Christ
It was nailed right on the gallows on both sides. Look at the previous page in this thread; there is a photo there showing it.
I take it, once again, that your ears simply turn off every time you hear the chant "Hang Mike Pence" as you're viewing Jan 6 videos.
I want to quote an old Dorothy Parkerism, when asked to use the word horticulture in a sentence. She said, "You can lead a horticulture, but you can't make her think!"
You get hit by a flagpole, that is violent, you get pepper sprayed, that is violent. That is "exactly violent".
Unfettered
A striving disciple of Jesus Christ
I agree. The violence that was done should not be glossed over.
This thread is about claims related to a non-crime.
Guitar's Cry
Disciple of Pan
Do you always define violence by comparing it to another instance of violence?
You realize that one of the reasons the protesters never actually got to the Senators and Mike Pence is due to how security managed the situation, which includes shooting a woman?
What do you think the people would have done to them had they gotten to them?
Pogo
Well-Known Member
Was it really necessary to bowdlerize Dorothy.
Laniakea
Not of this world
Getting called a "he" when you identify as a "she" is violent as well. OITE Blog - NIH office of Intramural Research | Understanding the Impact of Misgendering and Deadnaming.
But it won't overthrow a government.
Rules, my dear Pogo, forum rules!
Laniakea
Not of this world
Got up in their faces and chanted slogans.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
So, calling it "art" while chanting "Hang Mike Pence!" is supposedly real artwork?
Unfettered
A striving disciple of Jesus Christ
Who gets to say?
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
The words and the gallows should tell you the story. What happened can and may be used as evidence dealing with the January 6th charges because of Trump's own words whereas he agreed with the chanters.
Unfettered
A striving disciple of Jesus Christ
That makes no sense to me. If I built the gallows and I disclosed conspicuously—on the construction itself, in two places (at least)—that it was art, how can someone else's words be used against me to prove that I really and actually intended to hang and kill someone with it?
Laniakea
Not of this world
"Peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard" is what Trump said.
That doesn't sound like he was agreeing with "Hang Mike Pence".
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
I think it's quite obvious why you think "It makes no sense...".
Go get a toy gun; put a sign on each side of it saying "It's just a toy!", and then go pull it on a police officer and see what happens. Or take it to a bank and see.
You're defending that which should not be defended from both a legal and a moral point of view.
Nuff said.