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New strike on Syria without congressional approval.

Kangaroo Feathers

Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
That's right, only if the Liberal democrats understood that, seeing how they were in power for 8 years. And did nothing but have open borders to let more Illegal immigrants in.

That's why Trump putting up a border wall, so that we can take care of our own people first, and fix our country first.
Wow.
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
If you think bombing stuff saving lives is "common sense", you haven't spent as much time around bombs as I have. A simple "no I don't have any evidence for my ridiculous claim about saving lives" would have been perfectly adequate.


I would rather see stuff bombed, than see people getting bombed.

A building can always be replace, but a life can not be replace once it's gone.
 

AManCalledHorse

If you build it they will come
That's right, only if the Liberal democrats understood that, seeing how they were in power for 8 years. And did nothing but have open borders to let more Illegal immigrants in.

That's why Trump putting up a border wall, so that we can take care of our own people first, and fix our country first.

Don't give me this left/right bullcrap. Each has had near equal time in office and it hasn't got better.
69-74 Nixon -Rep
74-77 Ford -Rep
77-81 Carter -Dem
81-89 Reagan -Reb
89-93 G. H. W. Bush -Rep
93-01 Clinton -Dem
01-09 G. W. Bush -Rep
09-17 Obama -Dem
Since 69 Rep having more time in office and we still never built a wall or took care of our hungry and homeless.
 

Kangaroo Feathers

Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
Of course. It's just speculation. Nobody's really going to know unless you have a security clearance and involved with it directly.
It is possible to brief the public without breaching security. FWIW, though, the unclassified general consensus via back channels is "none of the brass know anything, and the whole operation is a WOFTAM, start to finish". Take that with a grain of salt, sure, it's 10 years since I've been active service, but professional courtesy goes a long way and I have no deason to suspect I've been misinformed.
 

Kangaroo Feathers

Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
I would rather see stuff bombed, than see people getting bombed.

A building can always be replace, but a life can not be replace once it's gone.
Um, Assad is still bombing people, and the targets of the bombing we're discussing were in built up areas, so collateral damage seems at least possible. So I'm still waiting for you to explain how lives have been saved. When you think you have a coherent argument that's actually relevant to the question, please let me know.
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
Don't give me this left/right bullcrap. Each had has near equal time in office and it hasn't got better.
69-74 Nixon -Rep
74-77 Ford -Rep
77-81 Carter -Dem
81-89 Reagan -Reb
89-93 G. H. W. Bush -Rep
93-01 Clinton -Dem
01-09 G. W. Bush -Rep
09-17 Obama -Dem
Since 69 Rep having more time in office and we still never built a wall or took care of our hungry and homeless.

That's all evidence, every time something wants to be done for the hungry and homeless, Liberal democrats puts a fight against it.
 

AManCalledHorse

If you build it they will come
That's all evidence, every time something wants to be done for the hungry and homeless, Liberal democrats puts a fight against it.

Evidence neither have done much of anything. A politician is a politician. Thinking one is better than the other is naive. Be it a crocodile or a alligator it will still eat you.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Evidence neither have done much of anything. A politician is a politician. Thinking one is better than the other is naive. Be it a crocodile or a alligator it will still eat you.
It really depends. For minorities, Democrats are benign, whereas Republicans are malignant ******** who go one crusades against your rights and liberties. If you're poor, Republicans are going to do everything they can to take money out of your hands and reduce your benefits. If you're a woman, Republicans are the ones who want control over your reproductive options, choices, and decisions.
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
Um, note how roughly half those guys are Republicans?

Um, note, that every time democrats are in power, they still didn't do anything.
And yet Liberal democrats wants people to believe they are for the poor and hungry and the working class people.

But yet it was Hillary and the DNC, that wanted to shut down the coal miners, put them out of work, all the while letting Illegal immigrants come into our country, but yet couldn't take care of the people who are already here.

Before you can take care of other people, you have take care of those who are already here.
But Liberal democrats did not care about those illegal immigrants, only wanted their votes.
Heck Liberal democrats don't even care about you, except for your vote,

Liberal democrats will tell you their going to do this or that, But once their in office Liberal democrats do nothing.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
To sum things up:

- US destabilizes countries like Libya and Syria, by
supporting the rebels

- As a consequence: 1) terrorists target European countries with their attacks, being US allies
2) immigrants and refugees invade Europe

- Instead of allying with Russia against terrorism, US befriends other countries...
 

Kangaroo Feathers

Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
Um, note, that every time democrats are in power, they still didn't do anything.
And yet Liberal democrats wants people to believe they are for the poor and hungry and the working class people.

But yet it was Hillary and the DNC, that wanted to shut down the coal miners, put them out of work, all the while letting Illegal immigrants come into our country, but yet couldn't take care of the people who are already here.

Before you can take care of other people, you have take care of those who are already here.
But Liberal democrats did not care about those illegal immigrants, only wanted their votes.
Heck Liberal democrats don't even care about you, except for your vote,

Liberal democrats will tell you their going to do this or that, But once their in office Liberal democrats do nothing.
Um, note, that every time democrats are in power, they still didn't do anything.
And yet Liberal democrats wants people to believe they are for the poor and hungry and the working class people.

But yet it was Hillary and the DNC, that wanted to shut down the coal miners, put them out of work, all the while letting Illegal immigrants come into our country, but yet couldn't take care of the people who are already here.

Before you can take care of other people, you have take care of those who are already here.
But Liberal democrats did not care about those illegal immigrants, only wanted their votes.
Heck Liberal democrats don't even care about you, except for your vote,

Liberal democrats will tell you their going to do this or that, But once their in office Liberal democrats do nothing.
Cool goal post shifting.
 

Kangaroo Feathers

Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
To sum things up:

- US destabilizes countries like Libya and Syria, by
supporting the rebels

- As a consequence: 1) terrorists target European countries with their attacks, being US allies
2) immigrants and refugees invade Europe

- Instead of allying with Russia against terrorism, US befriends other countries...
You forgot "US destabilises region to start with by invading Iraq, causing the splintering and factioning of countries like Libya and Syria."

Kind of an important point.
 

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
I am so happy the current president encrypts all his messages via public Twitter posts and doesnt blast everything including military plans all over social media.
You mean like when he declared that red line against the use of chemical weapons?
 

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
No evidence the buildings bombed contained chemical weapons agents or that any damage was done to Assad's chemical weapons stores.
Maybe the evidence is out there but you refuse to accept it. According to news reports the air strikes destroyed the main Syrian chemical weapons research and development center and chemical weapons storage facilities. Washington Post: Breaking News, World, US, DC News & Analysis That seems like evidence that these air strikes damaged Assad’s chemical weapons capability.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Um, note, that every time democrats are in power, they still didn't do anything.
Back when I still among the working poor, Obama's tax cut made a tremendous difference - he also helped further and enforce transgender rights and liberties.
Maybe the evidence is out there but you refuse to accept it. According to news reports the air strikes destroyed the main Syrian chemical weapons research and development center and chemical weapons storage facilities. Washington Post: Breaking News, World, US, DC News & Analysis That seems like evidence that these air strikes damaged Assad’s chemical weapons capability.
The last air strike did do some damage to one of his air bases, but they fixed up and had it running again soon after. Going back even further, how crippled was the US Navy after the Pearl Harbor attacks? One of the things that made Desert Storm work out as it did was launching intense bombing raids that lasted for a few weeks, and not only did it target military structures but it also crippled the communication abilities of Saddam's military. But even that achieved little in the long wrong, and a decade later Bush Jr. would be picking back up where daddy left off. And that campaign was a disaster anyway you look at it.
 
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