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New strike on Syria without congressional approval.

Shaul

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Premium Member
"Needed urgent response" please show, with evidence, the response was:
A. Needed
B. Needed to be urgent
Let’s start with this:
How about this for starts:
French report lays out the evidence: Assad forces conducted chemical attack on civilians
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Underhill

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That's right, only if the Liberal democrats understood that, seeing how they were in power for 8 years. And did nothing but have open borders to let more Illegal immigrants in.

That's why Trump putting up a border wall, so that we can take care of our own people first, and fix our country first.

That is just nonsense. Not even remotely close to true.

Illegal immigrant numbers in US hit lowest level in a decade under Barack Obama, finds study

Clinton and Obama Laid the Groundwork for Donald Trump’s War on Immigrants

Fewer immigrants are being deported under Trump than under Obama

Donald Trump is deporting fewer people than Barack Obama did

That is one reasons, among others, why Trump and many of his followers lack credibility.
 

Underhill

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As for Syria... I have no problem with the bombings.

But the fact that Trump complained about Obama doing the same thing, for the same reason, is just more evidence that the guy has no interest in credibility. (Like we needed more...)
 

Shaul

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Premium Member
Back when I still among the working poor, Obama's tax cut made a tremendous difference - he also helped further and enforce transgender rights and liberties.

The last air strike did do some damage to one of his air bases, but they fixed up and had it running again soon after. Going back even further, how crippled was the US Navy after the Pearl Harbor attacks? One of the things that made Desert Storm work out as it did was launching intense bombing raids that lasted for a few weeks, and not only did it target military structures but it also crippled the communication abilities of Saddam's military. But even that achieved little in the long wrong, and a decade later Bush Jr. would be picking back up where daddy left off. And that campaign was a disaster anyway you look at it.
Pearl Harbor doesn’t seem like the right analogy to me. It is more like Israel’s Operation Opera which kept Saddam Hussein from acquiring nuclear weapons and stabilized the region. These air strikes had the goal of immediately disrupting Assad from using chemical weapons against civilians. Assad will not easily be able to rebuild what was destroyed. Comparing this current highly focused air strike to other huge unlimited air wars is simply incorrect.
 

Shaul

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Premium Member
Please show me the difference.
Obama’s Syrian air strikes were open ended and not specific to any particular targets. These most recent air strikes were specific to facilities that U.S. intelligence assessed would disrupt Assad’s ability to use chemical weapons against civilians and are a single action, not ongoing. If you can’t tell the difference then so be it.
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
Back when I still among the working poor, Obama's tax cut made a tremendous difference - he also helped further and enforce transgender rights and liberties.

The last air strike did do some damage to one of his air bases, but they fixed up and had it running again soon after. Going back even further, how crippled was the US Navy after the Pearl Harbor attacks? One of the things that made Desert Storm work out as it did was launching intense bombing raids that lasted for a few weeks, and not only did it target military structures but it also crippled the communication abilities of Saddam's military. But even that achieved little in the long wrong, and a decade later Bush Jr. would be picking back up where daddy left off. And that campaign was a disaster anyway you look at it.


And what was the big reason why Obama enforce transgender rights, Only for their votes, other than that Obama wouldn't have gave them nothing.

The only way Liberal democrats can get any votes, is by their under handedness.
Liberal democrats can't do anything right to get votes, it's always lying and their Criminal activitys.

To day liberal democrats do nothing but give hand outs to people just for their votes.

There hasn't been a great Liberal democrat President since JFK. Who said ( Ask not what your Country can do for you, But ask what you can do for your Country)

To day liberal democrats say this ( Ask not what you can do for your Country, But ask what your country can do for you)

Big difference between what the liberal democrats use to stand for and what liberal democrats stands for to day.
 

dfnj

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And what was the big reason why Obama enforce transgender rights, Only for their votes, other than that Obama wouldn't have gave them nothing.

The only way Liberal democrats can get any votes, is by their under handedness.
Liberal democrats can't do anything right to get votes, it's always lying and their Criminal activitys.

To day liberal democrats do nothing but give hand outs to people just for their votes.

There hasn't been a great Liberal democrat President since JFK. Who said ( Ask not what your Country can do for you, But ask what you can do for your Country)

To day liberal democrats say this ( Ask not what you can do for your Country, But ask what your country can do for you)

Big difference between what the liberal democrats use to stand for and what liberal democrats stands for to day.

Republicans are just as bad as Democrats. If you think otherwise, you are completely delusional.
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
Republicans are just as bad as Democrats. If you think otherwise, you are completely delusional.

Democrats to day are far worse than democrats ever thought about being.

If democrats thought they could get a vote by selling you out, democrats would do it in a heart beat. Actually democrats do, but people are not smart enough to see it.

To days democrats do not care or how they get a vote, their just power hungry, democrats greed for power has no bounds.

I was s strong supporter of democrats for
45 years, So I don't need anyone to tell me about democrats. I was around when democrats stood for something.

When a Democrat ran for President you could rely on what they said, knowing they ment what they said. And stood on what they said.

Unto like democrats to day, they tell you one thing, then after they are President then does the opposite of what they said they were going to do.
All democrats do to day is give people lip service and every time people fall for it.

Look at Bernie Sanders, goes to kids gun control protest, All the while his body guards have guns.
That's how backwards democrats really are.
Goes to protest against guns, But their body guards have guns.
What's up with all that.
 

ADigitalArtist

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Obama’s Syrian air strikes were open ended and not specific to any particular targets. These most recent air strikes were specific to facilities that U.S. intelligence assessed would disrupt Assad’s ability to use chemical weapons against civilians and are a single action, not ongoing. If you can’t tell the difference then so be it.
So not different enough to actually make any difference in result.
 

ADigitalArtist

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Staff member
Premium Member
Maybe the evidence is out there but you refuse to accept it. According to news reports the air strikes destroyed the main Syrian chemical weapons research and development center and chemical weapons storage facilities. Washington Post: Breaking News, World, US, DC News & Analysis That seems like evidence that these air strikes damaged Assad’s chemical weapons capability.
Maybe the evidence isn't out there and you're willing to accept any claimed victory, even though it's contradictory with people on the ground and defectors who gave us locations to begin with. Even McKenzie admitted that the buildings could have been abandoned, and there's no reports of chemical leakage, nor is there any fatalities of Assad's people.

Syria’s move bold after Trump strike
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
How could I have made such an error. You are right. There are no politicians in politics lol.

If I may so say, I don't consider myself no longer a Democrat nor a Republican.

I voted independent, seeing how Trump is not a Republican, but ran as a independent.
Trump never said he was a Republican.
And never ran as a Republican.
Trump like the Republican party's platform and that's all.
But Trump never said he was a Republican.
If you go back during Trump's campaign.
Trump never had any signs saying
( Trump & Pence Republican )
All they had was ( Trump, Pence)

As to where people get Trump as being a Republican, When in fact, Trump never said he was a Republican nor Democrat.

Trump ran as a independent. Not belonging to either Party.
This is why alot of people voted for Trump. That he is not corrupted by either Party.

Why do you think, why Democrats and Republicans were all against Trump.
And in some since still are.
Because Democrats and Republicans can not handle having an outsider Independent winning President.

So how is it that people say Trump is a Republican, When in fact, Trump never said he was a Republican.

Trump was raised Democrat, but never committed himself as a Democrat.

Trump never committed himself as a Republican neither.

I myself was raised Democrat, but never fully committed myself as a Democrat nor a Republican, but more as a Independent voter.
 

AManCalledHorse

If you build it they will come
If I may so say, I don't consider myself no longer a Democrat nor a Republican.

I voted independent, seeing how Trump is not a Republican, but ran as a independent.
Trump never said he was a Republican.
And never ran as a Republican.
Trump like the Republican party's platform and that's all.
But Trump never said he was a Republican.
If you go back during Trump's campaign.
Trump never had any signs saying
( Trump & Pence Republican )
All they had was ( Trump, Pence)

As to where people get Trump as being a Republican, When in fact, Trump never said he was a Republican nor Democrat.

Trump ran as a independent. Not belonging to either Party.
This is why alot of people voted for Trump. That he is not corrupted by either Party.

Why do you think, why Democrats and Republicans were all against Trump.
And in some since still are.
Because Democrats and Republicans can not handle having an outsider Independent winning President.

So how is it that people say Trump is a Republican, When in fact, Trump never said he was a Republican.

Trump was raised Democrat, but never committed himself as a Democrat.

Trump never committed himself as a Republican neither.

I myself was raised Democrat, but never fully committed myself as a Democrat nor a Republican, but more as a Independent voter.

An independent is still a politician. Trump is now a politician. Politics change people by greed and power.
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
An independent is still a politician. Trump is now a politician. Politics change people by greed and power.

Nope, Trump was never a Politician and never claim to be.
How many times democrats and Republicans said that Trump is not a politician.
Just because someone runs for President, Congress, Senate, does not mean they are a politician.
Heck just because someone runs for President, does not automatically makes them a politician.

That's like saying, just because a person represents themselves in court that makes them attorney, Yeah right.
It just means, rather than have an attorney, they would rather represent themselves.
 

AManCalledHorse

If you build it they will come
Nope, Trump was never a Politician and never claim to be.
How many times democrats and Republicans said that Trump is not a politician.
Just because someone runs for President, Congress, Senate, does not mean they are a politician.
Heck just because someone runs for President, does not automatically makes them a politician.

That's like saying, just because a person represents themselves in court that makes them attorney, Yeah right.
It just means, rather than have an attorney, they would rather represent themselves.

Good grief. Trump is the president and yes he is a politician. He has been meddling in politics for years now. He is also trying to live in real life his apprentice show "your fired". Non-politicians don't run for political offices.
 
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