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New York Times endorses Harris as ‘the only choice’ for president

Regiomontanus

Eastern Orthodox
As you imply, Trump has no platform apart from imposing tariffs, which is likely at the behest of large American manufacturing concerns, who benefit by being able to raise their prices, this not his idea.

If a foreign car is $50,000 and a competitive American car sells for $45,000, if the price of the foreign car increases 100% (or even 60%), the American manufacturer can impose the same "tariff" on consumers of domestic products.

To be fair, Biden does this too. I would like to buy an EV by the Chinese company BYD. Insanely affordable and the quality is supposedly very good. But Biden has a 27.5% tariff on the cars.

That said, if Captain Bone Spurs gets his way, everyone will pay much more for a wide variety of everyday goods.



 
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F1fan

Veteran Member
To be fair, Biden does this too. I would like to buy an EV by the Chinese company BYD. Insanely affordable and the quality is supposedly very good. But Biden has a 27.5% tariff on the cars.

That said, if Captain Bone Spurs gets his way, everyone will pay much more for a wide variety of everyday goods.



That’s the purpose of tariffs, to help products made in America competive with cheaper imports. Trump wants to impose tariffs on imports that aren’t made in America. It’ll just add to the price. Stupid.
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
Yeah, so maybe it should be up to the person who's health is being risked, what they want to do with their own body.
Crazy concept, eh? :rolleyes:
Outrageous concept, in fact. They're only women, after all -- why the heck should they have any say? It's up to their fathers until they get married, and then their hubby tells them what to do. If hubby dies, then her sons, brothers or brothers-in-law are her decision makers. This is God's will for women!
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
You just disqualified yourself from debate since she has. You may disagree with her policies but that does not mean that she has not explained them. Meanwhile my claims about tRump are true.
She is the equivalent of pointing out the table of contents , but when you open the book all the pages are blank.
 

Regiomontanus

Eastern Orthodox
Yeah, so maybe it should be up to the person who's health is being risked, what they want to do with their own body.
Crazy concept, eh? :rolleyes:

Or...

Maybe the state should stick up for these innocent unborn children? Protect them from murder?

The problem with debating abortion is that the 'pro-choice' side only has an argument if they completely discount the value of the unborn. You and others treat them as disposable tissue, which I find abhorrent.

Yet, we keep speaking past each other....round and round we go.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
Outrageous concept, in fact. They're only women, after all -- why the heck should they have any say? It's up to their fathers until they get married, and then their hubby tells them what to do. If hubby dies, then her sons, brothers or brothers-in-law are her decision makers. This is God's will for women!
Yeah, women aren't responsible enough to make their own decisions! Someone else should be making them for us.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
So you haven't thought about it very deeply at all.
Awesome.
No just the opposite. People hire illegals because of they are far cheaper than hiring citizens living there , so what happens to Citizens wages then when it's much cheaper to get illegal labor? Ever stop to think of that?
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
She is the equivalent of pointing out the table of contents , but when you open the book all the pages are blank.
Please. You have to do better than that. Here is your problem. You are not reasoning consistently. It is impossible to go into massive detail in one short interview. And if you make this claim about Harris your attack against Trump should be ten times stronger because he does not even have that.

You need to use the same standards for both. You do not get to use impossibly high standards for Harris and no standards at all for Trump an claim that Harris is the one that failed.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
Or...

Maybe the state should stick up for these innocent unborn children? Protect them from murder?

The problem with debating abortion is that the 'pro-choice' side only has an argument if they completely discount the value of the unborn. You and others treat them as disposable tissue, which I find abhorrent.

Yet, we keep speaking past each other....round and round we go.
The pro-choice side actually says, it's up to he individual person to decide what's best for themselves, rather than having politicians legislate on what they know nothing about.

I find that the supposed "pro-life" crowd often doesn't give a rat's patootie about the health/life of the woman involved and seems to think they're better equipped to make life decisions for other people than those people are themselves, while giving all the value to a fetus that hasn't been born yet, isn't developed yet, and doesn't have an actual life with social ties, responsibilities, and connections with other born and developed human beings. A woman that just died trying to obtain a life-saving abortion had a husband and a six-year-old child at home. I cannot say that her life is worth less than a fetus. I don't see how it could be.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
No just the opposite. People hire illegals because of they are far cheaper than hiring citizens living there , so what happens to Citizens wages then when it's much cheaper to get illegal labor? Ever stop to think of that?
They stagnate. But once again you are not looking at the big picture. And remember how you keep complaining about inflation? Your proposal of ending illegal immigrants as sources of labor would be extremely inflationary when it came to fresh produce. You would be paying several times as much for most fresh fruit and vegetables. Our country right now depends heavily on illegal immigrants. Trump has no solution to that. He is lying when he says that he will deport them all since even he is not that stupid. His base on the other hand is extremely gullible and will eat up all of his lies as if they were the word of god themselves.
 
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