New York Times endorses Harris as ‘the only choice’ for president

[Clizby Wampuscat]

See, this is forgetting that every human being that ever lived is unique -- and every medical situation is likewise unique. One of the most foolish things law-makers can do -- and something you are trying to do right now -- is lay out the simple "rules" that will cover evern single unique situationg forevermore. Humans tie themselves into knots trying to do that -- and seem unable to ever learn from their mistakes.

So, Donald Trump claims that Democrats allow abortion even after birth. This is, I hope even you can figure out, sheerest nonsense. There is a law for that already -- it's called murder. On the other hand, what is your recommendation for 18 hours before birth, when it becomes completely clear to doctors in the delivery room that the birth will kill both baby and mother? Do you say, "too late, hands-off, let nature take its course?" Or do you say, "if we can save one of them, then we should?"

There you go, Solomon. Choose wisely.

I have always said and Trump has said as well that is the mother's life is at risk then it is up to the mother to decide what to do.

My question was what are Kamala's restrictions?

 

[Subduction Zone]

I would want better guidelines for doctors to follow. They should define what health risk means.

Do you realize that the boogieman of late term abortions is just extremists lying to you?

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

She said pretty clearly during the debate that she'd like to reinstate Roe v. Wade protections.

Ok, then you believe Trump when he says he does not want a national abortion ban?

 

[SkepticThinker]

No just the opposite. People hire illegals because of they are far cheaper than hiring citizens living there , so what happens to Citizens wages then when it's much cheaper to get illegal labor? Ever stop to think of that?

Oopsy you should have watched the video.

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

Yeah, so maybe it should be up to the person who's health is being risked, what they want to do with their own body.
Crazy concept, eh?

Depends on the risk doesn't it. What does health risk mean?

 

[SkepticThinker]

I have always said and Trump has said as well that is the mother's life is at risk then it is up to the mother to decide what to do.

My question was what are Kamala's restrictions?

Your question has been answered several times.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Depends on the risk doesn't it. What does health risk mean?

The post you were responding to already answered your question.

"Yeah, so maybe it should be up to the person who's health is being risked, what they want to do with their own body."
Crazy concept, eh?

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

Do you realize that the boogieman of late term abortions is just extremists lying to you?

Can you answer my question? Define health risk? Does it just mean risk of death or permanent injury etc.?

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

The post you were responding to already answered your question.

"Yeah, so maybe it should be up to the person who's health is being risked, what they want to do with their own body."
Crazy concept, eh?

That answers nothing. Surely there should be a definition of what a health risk means before we end a life.

 

[Twilight Hue]

They stagnate. But once again you are not looking at the big picture. And remember how you keep complaining about inflation? Your proposal of ending illegal immigrants as sources of labor would be extremely inflationary when it came to fresh produce. You would be paying several times as much for most fresh fruit and vegetables. Our country right now depends heavily on illegal immigrants. Trump has no solution to that. He is lying when he says that he will deport them all since even he is not that stupid. His base on the other hand is extremely gullible and will eat up all of his lies as if they were the word of god themselves.

I don't believe in that b******* about things getting more expensive for no other reason that cheaper labor makes wages plummet and so things get more expensive because you're not being paid enough.

If it was effective like you say then why the hell are prices so freaking high now and still climbing? No we are not dependent on illegals. We are in fact suffering from it.

The sooner illegals are bussed out of this country, the better it will be for the citizens who actually belong here.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Please. You have to do better than that. Here is your problem. You are not reasoning consistently. It is impossible to go into massive detail in one short interview. And if you make this claim about Harris your attack against Trump should be ten times stronger because he does not even have that.

You need to use the same standards for both. You do not get to use impossibly high standards for Harris and no standards at all for Trump an claim that Harris is the one that failed.

No Harris has to do better than that other than giving out word salad and memorized lines to repeat over and over that don't even apply to the questions asked of her and one that you would expect from a potential leader of the most powerful nation on earth.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

I have always said and Trump has said as well that is the mother's life is at risk then it is up to the mother to decide what to do.

My question was what are Kamala's restrictions?

I notice you say "life is at risk." So, I assume that means only when assured that death is imminent, a woman gets to choose, right?

Kamala Harris -- and I -- say when a woman's "personal well-being" are at risk, she has the right to make her own decisions.

Now, your turn. Set down your complete set of rules -- that accomodate every possible circumstance -- in such a way that there can be no confusion about what portion of a woman's life she is permitted to make and under what circumstances, and which will be made for her by government.

 

[We Never Know]

Depends on the risk doesn't it. What does health risk mean?

Nothing wrong with abortion for health risks.
Abortion for convenience is what I don't like.
It has nothing to do with 'because of health risks'.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Can you answer my question? Define health risk? Does it just mean risk of death or permanent injury etc.?

No. I cannot do so. I am not a medical expert. Why did you dodge my question? I am not afraid to answer yours. I am ready to trust individual doctors to make the right choice. Please note, doctors cannot be forced into performing abortions. Abortions after the 22nd week are getting rather expensive, and unless medically needed are usually not covered by insurance. Even in very liberal Washington state where coverage of abortions is a required part of insurance, and they get around policies that do not cover it by having the state cover those costs. But that does not include elective abortions after 24 weeks. Planned Parenthood clinics are one of the sources that will provide abortions, but even they limit abortions after 24 weeks to ones that are medically necessary.

https://www.plannedparenthood.org/blog/how-far-along-can-you-be-to-get-an-abortion

You have to know by now that of all abortions performed less than 1% occur after 24 weeks. They appear to be almost all medically necessary. Women that wait that long tend to really want to have a child. The idea that women will suddenly be getting late term abortions if Roe v Wade is restored is simply a lie that you have been fed. In fact before this mess up fifty percent of abortions were so early that they were medical abortions, not physical ones. In other words a pill or two were enough to end the pregnancy.

 

[Kathryn]

The pro-choice side actually says, it's up to he individual person to decide what's best for themselves, rather than having politicians legislate on what they know nothing about.

I find that the supposed "pro-life" crowd often doesn't give a rat's patootie about the health/life of the woman involved and seems to think they're better equipped to make life decisions for other people than those people are themselves, while giving all the value to a fetus that hasn't been born yet, isn't developed yet, and doesn't have an actual life with social ties, responsibilities, and connections with other born and developed human beings. A woman that just died trying to obtain a life-saving abortion had a husband and a six-year-old child at home. I cannot say that her life is worth less than a fetus. I don't see how it could be.

About 97 percent of abortions are NOT because of the life of the mother or baby, OR for rape or incest, and at least 43 percent of abortions are done on women who have already had at least one abortion.

 

[We Never Know]

Yeah, so maybe it should be up to the person who's health is being risked, what they want to do with their own body.
Crazy concept, eh?

What % of abortions are done for health risks vs done for convenience?

 

[Subduction Zone]

I don't believe in that b******* about things getting more expensive for no other reason that cheaper labor makes wages plummet and so things get more expensive because you're not being paid enough.

If it was effective like you say then why the hell are prices so freaking high now and still climbing? No we are not dependent on illegals. We are in fact suffering from it.

The sooner illegals are bussed out of this country, the better it will be for the citizens who actually belong here.

Too bad. You are just wrong then. If you are not willing to learn even simple economics then there is no helping you. Do you want to know a country that does not have cheap labor? Check out Japanese prices on produce. They import quite a bit because their local produce is so expensive.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Hardly....
Most of the whole world would prefer Harris to Trump.
You need to be infected with the Maga virus to see it differently.

Most are looking at policy, and rightfully demands clear concise answers, not because she's a woman , or black, or whatever b******* they come up with their latest definition of 'qualified'. Trump is bad is a clear sign of frantic and chaotic desperation and people are seeing right through that now and sick and tired of the current situation and sky high prices.

That means Trump because policy alone is what's going to start to fix things and not from a vapid word salad chameleon that pretends she's a capable and strong leader.

 

[Subduction Zone]

About 97 percent of abortions are NOT because of the life of the mother or baby, and at least 43 percenot of abortions are done on women who have already had at least one abortion.

What % of abortions are done for health risks vs done for convenience?

Guess what? No one is trying to force you to have those abortions. I do not like it when people own TV screens larger than 32". Does that mean that I get to ban them?

 

[Kathryn]

Guess what? No one is trying to force you to have those abortions. I do not like it when people own TV screens larger than 32". Does that mean that I get to ban them?

If you can't see the difference between a TV screen and the life of a child, I can't help you.